… which is absolutely understandable considering how lemmy is most of the time,
it’s politics non-stop, one bad news after another, everyone is quick to bash somebody as either a nazi or a tankie or something else.
there aren’t many places where you can discuss politics or at least try to find comfort in seeing others think somewhat same way. No wonder its all concentrating here. But there definitely should be a lot more non-politics content.
Does the server matter at all? Wasn’t able to find a straight pixelfed.ca like I did with Lemmy, but it seems like people always end up dunking on the larger servers or defederating them because of Nazis.
Pixelfed-eral police
I’m finding the iOS app buggy as heck. It just crashes as soon as I open it. Had to delete it. May try again later.
Not surprising since half of lemmy seems to be a support group for inhalant abusers.
Not surprising. As long as they can afford the servers, it will probably get to Mastadon levels.
Lemmy is a replacement for reddit, and reddit was always much smaller than Instagram.
Hopefully people are willing to donate to their instances to keep them financially healthy. It’ll be a pretty big issue for growth if it starts to get popular but the larger instances can’t afford to stay operational and disappear.
Good for pixelfed
Why are you mad, Lemmy.ml and its constant propaganda and misinformation is one of the main reasons Lemmy isn’t thriving.
LW dwarfes Lemmy.ml by any possible metric
It’s just that IG is much more popular than Reddit, so the Fediverse equivalents have the same ratio
Try not to project .world on .ml for 5 seconds difficulty level impossible
This meme sucks.
People share photos and videos all the time on mastodon. What is the difference with pixelfed?
Everything on Fedi is just different interfaces and perf from the user perspective.
People want to continue to use something close to Instagram, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter but not be locked to their enshitified companies who decide what they get to see.
Many that come over find out there’s no algorithm and that they have to follow people to get any content, they find they miss the doom scroll and go straight back.
Every one of these federated apps needs a strong meme feed. Just an endless stream of shitposts and funny content. Doesn’t need to be doomscrolling, just needs to be a constantly available source of low effort junk food content
Better UI and a better discover page mainly. Plus it’s gotten a lot of organic advertising just from luck and people talking about it, and no obvious competitor like Bluesky
Pixelfed allows video?
Yes. No transcoding, but that’s actually a feature as far as I’m concerned.
Kick ass! I’m all for more Fediverse stuff getting popular, and if this has any competition, just means more features will be added across all of them.
People like looking at photos of food and cats more than being railed for having "incorrect* political viewpoints? (/s for anyone not picking up on that btw:-P)
I literally just got called a snowflake in another thread for saying people should stop posting US politics in general communities. People still wonder why Lemmy has a bad reputation even in the entire Fediverse… Sometimes I wonder why I still bother here.
i just hate the way most people here assume everyone is coming from US smh
Or the vast majority of political spam from only one country. I’d like more of a worldview. Be interesting to see how others have other problems and how it might be solved with other solutions.
Yeah, that’s definitely a shame. Let’s see how it goes, but I’m about to create a !usdefaultism somewhere just to list those occurrences
2024
Less than half, that actually surprises me. I honestly assume most people I meet online are Yanks.
I think a lot of people talk like Yanks, or just don’t clarify. I’ve had conversations with other Brits where we both assume the other is a Yank.
Happens to me a lot too, when actually none of us are from the USA
Nowadays, other countries also have Internet and can speak English
I could see the numbers being a little different for Lemmy, but I don’t expect that they’re wildly different.
I seem to remember Germans were like 10-20% at one point, but that might have evened out over time
Would make sense with how they handled the migration from /r/ich_iel
Sie haben gerufen?
That’s reddit, not Lemmy?
This is awesome; I’m too tired to do it right now - but I’d I remember I’d really like to normalise this against country populations to see what percent of a nation is a Reddit user.
At a glance, I’m pretty sure Australia is punching well above its weight - if nothing else.
Would you have such stats for LW? Really curious as it feels more balanced here
With the data from https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/list,
Honestly neither of these give a very good impression of where users are from, but I don’t think lemmy collects that data. Maybe if there was some way to check which languages people have listed?
Yes, it’s a bit difficult to infer any trend indeed, could be thousands of 1 person instances.
Languages don’t really work either, people tend to just speak English on the Internet. That’s why I was asking Serinus, I thought maybe on LW they would have some data
Actually I remember this data from lemmy.zip:
It’s actually the second or third thing I mention about Lemmy if it ever comes up in conversation. Sometimes I feel like just dropping it because of it.
I’ve seen it, but seems abandoned, and not a fan of yet another community on LW
The mod still seems to be active, last comment made 19 hours ago
I don’t disagree it’s an issue, but what should be allowed in general communities? If any other nation’s politics are allowed, then you can’t really just not allow US politics (unless you make that a rule for the community and part of its purpose, which is fine).
There are just more Americans here than any particular other nationality, so you get more US content on average. You’ll need specific non-US communities if you want to avoid it. Expecting general communities to not reflect the general audience is a little absurd.
!politics@lemmy.world isn’t about any country politics, it’s exclusively about US politics (see the sidebar)
!youshouldknow@lemmy.world should be useful information for everyone, not only US citizens
I guess I am a snowflake too then, bc to me consent should matter. And while the USA is a part of the world, and also has an oversized effect upon it due to the size of the economy and trade deals and the like, it also can be overwhelming for some, who feel ostracized and left out as if only the big guys (and guns) matter.
But on the other hand, it is known that moderation sucks across the vast majority of Lemmy - it’s somewhat baked right into the tools themselves, e.g. removing whole posts rather than merely taking them out of the community lists but allowing people to continue their discussions already begun, as Reddit does.
So you may want to take it upon yourself to either start blocking by keywords (maybe find an app that allows that - I’m not sure which ones), or user accounts that do that, or even find a better community to engage with.
Though I agree with your conclusion: I no longer recommend Lemmy to people irl by virtue of having been burned by that far too many times before. We’re toxic AF in this Alt-Left (rather than Alt-Right) “Nazi bar” space, and a lot of the people here are legit those banned from Reddit for exactly that behavior.
moderation sucks across the vast majority of Lemmy
Moderation isn’t ideal, but absent moderators aren’t going to moderate even with the best tools
I mean, PieFed has some really cool thoughts about doing exactly that… I’m hoping for a lot there.
As it is, Lemmy is simply a more authoritarian version of Reddit - at the low level I mean, next to the users, who e.g. have no modmail recourse to discuss anything, nor even receive a notification that their content has been removed. Even while it is also open source so allows instance admins greater freedom to implement whatever policies they choose - disabling downvotes for example.
Anyway the more the technology can do the less reliance upon human efforts to moderate. e.g. to facilitate automated community discovery, so that there is lowered barriers to getting away from bad moderators.
I use a bridge to matrix for private messages to the bot accounts, reports for posts for which there are multiple bot accounts on different instances because federation is broken for reports, and new posts to the communities (where the last one was merged just few hours ago). We are also contemplating getting ourselves the functionality to automatically message users when we take action on their post/comment.
It’s crazy how far we have to go to make moderating stuff easier/more pleasant to do. I hope lemmy improves in that by a lot at some point.
My another gripe is no ability to detect image reposts because in image heavy communities they’re very common and remembering what was posted and when is a massive pita. That would fall under a bot category and not integrated feature (but would be cool if it was deeply integrated into lemmy so situations where it would tell you if it’s a repost BEFORE you even post it could be possible) but it’s still something that makes it harder to moderate. Same goes for posting to other communities because you need to check if it was posted recently or not if you aren’t chronically online to know that already.
For the image issue, if it is a link then wouldn’t Lemmy detect that already? Links to news articles and such at least work that way but I don’t know about images.
This is a link detection and not an image one. Two wildly different things. It also wouldn’t handle images with slight differences like an edit here and there because again, doesn’t handle images. Same goes for varying levels of compression. In fact it wouldn’t even detect the exact same images with different sources or when reuploaded by users. Even if there were people who source images from the same place it would still be irrelevant without an overwhelming share of the users doing that to make the feature actually relevant. And EVEN if there was this high coordination then any trackers, shorteners, arguments, etc. varying the link to the same source they would be treated as a different links without recognising them as a duplicate like with youtube for example. So users would need to be a literal mindhive to coordinate on this level and at this point the tools would be pointless because the knowledge would be shared between everyone anyway.
Having this feature would help immensely both as a poster and as a mod to handle the images with high probability of being a repost. But at the same time I know it isn’t feasible due to image processing requiring quite a bit of computing power so it will continue to be a dream.
I’m also a snowflake, cause it’s also annoying that people assume you’re from USA.
What state are you from?
That did make some sense… at one time, on Reddit or Facebook, but damn times have changed since then. Though teenagers have not :-).
Someone called you a snowflake? Ok…uh, I’ll call you a carrot.
But also, I don’t understand the rules for this game. It’s a snowman game, right?
It’s what’s turned me off this entire time. Everything is replied to with someone virtue signaling.
I just got called a rapist! For asking wtf she was wearing, fashion wise. (On a non rape story just to be clear). I also wonder why I’m still here. Y’all need to be better.
Looking at the comments, I can see how your comment got misinterpreted. I do believe you had no such intention, but the way it was worded (especially the last word, ‘anyway’) makes it sound out of context as if you were victim blaming. And from the number of votes, it’s obvious many see it that way. Rather than get mad at randos on the internet, why not just reflect that you might have written that in a somewhat confusing way, and clarify it? Without escalating.
I can see. But if people have a choice to interpret something as 1) that a question about fashion is in fact an innocuous question about fashion, or 2) that he’s obviously a rapist and victim blaming and I’m going to call him a rapist (when the entire tone of the thread and community is not serious), the problem that I see is that Lemmy is quick to misinterpret in the worst way possible.
And oddly enough, he was the person to escalate with that accusation, and I was the one to explain it.
Where did someone call you a rapist? Was it removed?
if people have a choice to interpret something as 1) that a question about fashion is in fact an innocuous question about fashion, or 2) that he’s obviously a rapist and victim blaming and I’m going to call him a rapist (when the entire tone of the thread and community is not serious)
That’s on the assumption that the reader sees both possible meanings, though. Most people don’t do that, the first meaning that comes to mind is the one we go with. It’s a very rare person that will, without external prompting, go ‘I wonder if he meant something else?’.
And oddly enough, he was the person to escalate with that explanation, and I was the one to explain it.
From his POV, you had already escalated. Yeah it was due to his misunderstanding. But at that point you were the one with a choice as to whether to nicely explain your actual original meaning, (and maybe edit the confusing line?) or just rage about everybody on Lemmy being quick to assume the worst. Nobody’s the asshole here, it was a misunderstanding, but you could have chosen to make it better :)
If someone can’t see what the literal words say then… there are bigger problems. Which may actually explain things.
It’s odd that you think I raged. I observed.
Yeah as expected I went and checked the comment in question and you are definitely misrepresenting it. You are omitting the context of the post, which is like…the entire fucking problem.
The amount of times I see people go “I was banned for literally no reason!” and the like only to discover they’re not being exactly truthful is staggering.
TbF I’ve seen plenty of wildly inappropriate bans on Lemmy too.
No one said they never happen 🤷♂️
The context of the post: 196 which is essentially a shit posting and take nothing serious community. Yeah that context. And that it was a straight question about what she was wearing, fashion wise since you really need to hear it. So thank you for demonstrating the exact problem!
You know I just read an interesting piece about how Musk deploys plausible deniability - or rather attempts to. He thinks he’s clever and he isn’t.
I know what 196 is. The context is the image. You really can’t see any reason why you got that reaction? Really and truly?
Reaction? If you see a simple question in a shitposting community, with the image of a fashion choice that is unconventional, and think “Hmm should I interpret this as a question about fashion as he asked, or should I interpret this as he’s a rapist and trying to be clever about it”, if you default to thinking that the other person is obviously a rapist (as you seem to have, saying that I’m seeking plausible deniability and try to associate me with Musk and trying to be clever with rape lol), then holy fuck, and frankly that’s on you. That was your reaction. Like you have to really out there to default to “he’s obviously a rapist”. You need to be better.
Honestly this is the perfect example of how Lemmy has a ravenous need to misinterpret. You just did it yourself.
This is such a reach dude. Also her outfit is far from “unconventional.“ But I’m not gonna get bogged down in the weeds of that one.
I remember somebody tried to talk to me recently about the economics of the third Reich without talking about the war. At some point you’re just ignoring what’s in front of you to the point where it’s dishonest.
You’re having a very real principal Skinner moment here. A lot of people are telling you the issue, yet you are hell bent on hiding behind intention. Unfortunately intention is not enough. Especially when you double down in the face of valid critiques.
I know you don’t want advice from me but I’m going to give it anyway: take a beat, step away from this conversation, then come back and think about why people may have had a negative reaction to what you said. There is an important lesson here you can pick up if you want to.
You were just joking around, right? Well, perhaps they were too. If you want it assumed about you, perhaps go ahead and assume it about then. That way, even if the former does not happen, at least you will definitely have the moral high ground regardless. Now, what was it that Obi Wan always says about the high ground…? :-P
LOL no I wasn’t joking around (about rape or anything else). It was a legit, straightforward question about fashion. And no he wasn’t joking, it was a pretty clear accusation.
I’m so confused.
This place just needs better moderation. I’ve said this multiple times before but there is a serious lack of moderation and most admins go dark for long periods of time. Make it clear this behavior isn’t okay, ban people who run their mouth, and remove low-effort posts.
Strong agree. Maybe we should start calling out communities with inactive mods. Like a spring cleaning of communities.
Could be a pretty easy flag to be displayed on any community. Basically last time the mod logged in or was active (should be available).
Don’t even need that, I know a few that could be used
I personally have seen much worse overmoderation than undermoderation.
Its nice right now…Hope it stays.
How dare you!! Here’s why you need to be vegan right now by the way grumble grumble grumble
Oh excuse me, while I convert my entire personality to incorporate that energy…
There, done! I am now okay with murdering anyone who is okay with, ah… murdering a uh… wait, I may see a problem here.:-P
It is your fault President Musk got elected, shitlord!!!
Is this the fediverse’s answer to Instagram?
Yes.
-Instagram has pixelfed. -Reddit has lemmy -X has Mastodon/Misskey/Pleroma (&forks…) -Tiktok has loops (app still super rough around the edges and sadly on limited to one instance rather than having its own software from what i understand) -Youtube has peertube (so far the least used i think)
Yea peertube is rough… Mostly in part due to, in my opinion at least, people wanting to make use of YouTube’s ad revenue system even tho most creators I watch making most of their income via donations rather than ad revenue.
I dont understand how to join or post on peertube, its the most confusing, do you host your own, is there a feed of all the servers?
You just pick an instance and join it, sadly i don’t think it has enough federation yet so its entirely possible u just chose a bad instance and have amazing creators sitting on other instances yours isn’t federated with
If you f up and join lemmy.dbzero you wont see any posts from lemmyworld users and the same issue if you join the other
Incorrect, I’m on dbzer0 and see all of LW just fine
Can they not see you? Or is it just piracy stuff
Just the one community about piracy. The rest can be seen both ways
Does this help?
Where does Honk fit into this? https://humungus.tedunangst.com/r/honk
It is simple and free of bloat. I like it much better than that youtube shorts analog I can’t remember the name of.
Yeah but pixelfed is coming out with loops, it’s been on beta for awhile, that is basically Tik Tok with no ads or government/big tech ownership. I personally feel like that could have taken a giant chunk of the Tik Tok users and kept them from having to learn to read ideograms to access content they wanted. I don’t personally use that format of social media but I tried it on Android and it looks just like Tik Tok looked that I have seen on others devices.
The only reason why no company could take over TikTok is their algorithm, its the worst yet the best part of the app, since you only see stuff you like, without having to search for similar accounts. I’ve been feeling lonely on the Fedi compared to other socials
This is cool, seems to work pretty well, and an easy way to find communities you want to subscribe to
Yeah, discoverability is work on Fedi, unfortunately most people would rather consume algo content from a bad source then work to find good people to follow.
Everything is open, I suspect if we REALLY wanted to we could make an indexing service to help surface content based on preferences, but then that’s a high value target for corporate America to farm. Also it would be pretty expensive to pay for it :)
I just can’t imagine who will pay for that sort of reach. It’s incredibly expensive for self hosting operations like TikTok. I’d imagine it’d be outrageous without a CDN.
I’d imagine it’d be outrageous without a CDN.
The idea is you’d have dozens or hundreds of people hosting loops and they’d each spread the cost among them and get funded by followers and philanthropists. Most lemmy instances use CDN, but it’s nowhere near as heavy media-wise.
You could also go the Peertube route and have the client share what you’re watching with other people torrent style.
Maybe a CDN funded through a few non-profits, never looked into it
Runs much faster than java BlueSky, the destroyer of batteries.
I was curious what the other apps were, found the list: https://fedidb.org/software
My feed on Pixelfed is way better the second week, now that I’ve followed a couple dozen folks and put some posts out there.
And pro tip: Post and tag a cute picture of your pet and people will see your account.
They need some starter packs like BlueSky because all I’m seeing are some art photography highly likely ai generated - and I have no idea where to find content that has any value. On searching the hashtags I’m getting mastodon posts containing links that can’t be clicked.
I thought that my first couple of days, but TBH, I actually really like that Fedi social media is completely self-directed. Not having the Jack Dorseys, Donald Trumps, and Zuckerbergs of the world vomiting content or stupid ads onto my feed is well worth the modicum of extra effort.
I found half of the people I’m following just by posting a picture of my dog and tagging it #CuteAnimals, and that got a nice response. I do follow a few hashtags and found follows there, but I will probably take them off once I’m up to 30-40 follows and I like my feed.
Search with the magnifying glass icon. In Discover maybe you can find something.
