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    rumors about the Russian leader’s failing health.

    Yeah yeah, we’ve had these for years now. Wake me up when Russia’s new president signs a peace deal that isn’t a full on annexation of Ukrainian territories with nothing in return. If that ever happens.

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    Hooo! If this is true Russia’s in for it. He’s been very effective at eliminating any possible successors. Hopefully the nukes stay safe.

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    Hopefully Trump and Putin’s bodies take care of the problems for the world sooner rather than later

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      Any micro organism inside of them has my support.

      By the time you’re 70/80 years old your thymus has basically just turned into fat cells and can no longer create new T-cells for your immune system. We just need the right microbe to enter.

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    New world order: Putin dies, successor adopts democracy and joins NATO, Trump leaves NATO and goes full authoritarian, US becomes new dictatorship while Russia becomes new leader of the free world.

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      Even if Putin’s successor adopts real democracy, it will take generations to change the national psyche that thinks they need a strong leader. As much as the west hates Putin, he does have real support among the people. At least as long as he remains strong.

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        Most importantly, it takes rewriting their school books… The Russian school books on mathematics and on Russian language rant about Russian supremacy.

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      A Russian leadership change would be good enough to stop the Ukrainian war. Any new leader would need resources close to hold power.

      This also just wont happen, Trump is the figure uniting the fascists in the US when he pops it topples and the spell is broken. There is a lot of horrible factors and clean up to be done but Trump doesn’t have the means to go full auhtoritarian I dont think.

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      Russia has tried joining NATO before, NATO wasn’t really interested. It’s one of the main reasons Russia is convinced NATO is inherently hostile to Russia.

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        That is absolutely not why Russia dislikes NATO, it’s because NATO was built to defend against russia (CCCP/URSS which was led by russia).

        That’s also why the anti-bully club rejected the bully

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          Well, yes, NATO was built to oppose Russia, that’s why they refused Russia membership, and why Russia considers NATO inherently a threat. And why “Russia joins NATO” is a non-starter, Pution or no Putin.

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                I’ve got autocorrect switched off, but these kinds of corrections have lately started happening.

                Anyway, corrected “need” to “mean”.

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                  Does it? If you’re defending, it’s presumably from an attack, which you are thereby opposing.

                  I mean, imagine if Russia and the US announce tomorrow that they formed a military alliance - it’s just defensive, don’t worry about it. Also, UKIP, AFD, and FN won, and the UK, Germany, and France are joining, too. No, the rest of NATO can’t join, but it’s just defensive, don’t worry about it. Also, Taiwan can’t join, but China might. Don’t worry about it.

                  I get that exclusion doesn’t necessarily have to mean hostility, but I don’t think it’s a stretch to see a power block forming that deliberately excludes you and be concerned. Now, I could think of a few ways of dealing with that concern that don’t involve, yknow, going to war, but I’m not the guy running things.

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        Russia’s behaviour whilst holding a veto in the UN Security Council pretty much proves to NATO that Russia would only be an obstacle, and no asset at all. Fuck Russia! With a giant cactus. No lube!

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    No matter how many bad people are waiting to take his place, one less Putin in the world is a net positive.

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        They’re giving him the Lenin treatment before he’s even dead

        He’s going to be around forever

        Only the good die young, assholes live FOREVER

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          Stalin tried to enforce the Lenin treatment for himself…

          It doesn’t always stick.

          The next person to gain power is 100% going to clean house, because the Russian government is a pit of back biting vipers.

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            You’re not worried that Putin is really just a puppet for all the oligarchs running the place now? Seems likely they’ll pick a new puppet.

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              They’re all in it together, but the ones less loyal to Putin have a habit of dying.

              Putin has had a bunch of them killed.

              There’s a great podcast called Sad Oligarch that goes over it all.

              So yeah, Putin is not currently a puppet ruler.

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              A puppet is someone whose actions are fully steered from the outside.

              Putin is a person chosen by KGB/FSB because he makes decisions that are very useful its leaders, but he retains a large amount of autonomy.

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        So far in our species history, the most rich and powerful have not been able to defeat father time (they want to, but they can’t figure out how … Yet).

        When I watched the first season of altered carbon, all I thought of was how the worst of our species will be the ones to live forever. I think avoiding death is really just a bio-engineering problem, and will be figured out if climate change doesn’t unalive us all first

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      His replacement will almost certainly be bad but they will have the opportunity to hang the whole Ukraine debacle on Putin and end the war. No certainty of this of course, but it’s possible.

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        They will of course attempt to keep the lands gained, they will be obliged to play the card of the referendum regions. But most of all they will need support, Oligarchs losing money, public losing sons, jobs, purchasing power. They will need to regain a hold on power and they cant do that by projecting what they have.

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    That shit is dying any minute now for the last decade. Even longer, actually.

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    Please stop, I can only get so happy…

    Between now and that party day there is still a lot of time for Putin to fuck things over. Be ready.

    Also, when Putin dies, who will take over? I can guarantee you that Russia won’t be a human loving democracy after he’s gone, it’ll just be the next dictator who takes over. Putin will make sure his legacy is perfect (because for guys like him, it’s all about bullshit like dynasty and legacy) and then place the next Putin but probably worse.

    Also, please take trump and the US government with you?

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      He won’t plant anyone as long as his legacy isn’t flawless. It will never be.

      For now, anyone who could became the next vladelets (🤮) is seen as a threat by Putin, and handled accordingly.

      But… Putin was planted by KGB, and KGB/FSB does have a plan for whom to plant.

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      And I hope Putin outlives the Russian Federation.

      …and dies as soon as possible, anyway. Preferably before April.

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      This is why I’m against anti aging research. I can’t get over how bad it would be if anti-aging tech arrives. Only the wealthy and powerful could afford it.

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        Depends on the flavor of the research. I’m all for still dying in my 70s but also am for being relatively fuckable until the very end.

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        Technically DIY gene therapy already exists. You probably can’t afford to do it working at McDonalds if you pay rent, but it’s something.

        But yeah, there isn’t any real reverse-aging tech, yet. Not until that lobster scientist figures out how to extend telomeres, the stem cell dudes figure out how to regenerate entire organs, and the CRISPER dudes invent a way for the cascade proteins to target degraded or virus-alterred DNA regularly. Even then, humans aren’t really built to live past reproductive ages, even a perfect genetic condition would accumulate tissues in all the wrong places.

        I think what the world truly needs is lower total populations only achievable via education and empowerment of young men and women. Mostly women. Especially the empowerment part.

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      really hope he doesnt pull a kissinger. that fuck let us wait for so long, when it actually happened, it was kinda like a wet fart

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      My man. I’ve been doing that since I was 5 years old. It is a fucking TRAVESTY that even living in 2010 during the nostolgia orgins era, PeeWee Herman never got redemption in getting his show return to CBS. Although to be fair, by the time 2010 rolled around the whole concept of Saturday morning cartoons was dead. So it would be kind of weird to sandwich PeeWee’s Playhouse between CBS morning news and Meet the Press.

      Still though…

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      My worry is that if Putin is on his death bed that he will launch the nukes because he wants to take the world with him. Trump would probably do the same.

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        I very highly doubt that Putin would do this. Putin isn’t a genius, but he’s nowhere near being an idiot. He knows if he did that, Russia would die with the rest of the world. And he’s never given any sort of hint that he’s the kind of person that wants the whole world to die with him.

        Not only that, but like the United States, it isn’t actually Putin who launches the nukes. And there are historical instances of Russian nuclear officers refusing to launch nukes. I honestly trust the warmongering, imperialist dictator Putin not to launch more than I trust our own president, and that’s terrifying to think about. Because Trump IS exactly the sort of person to order a nuclear launch because he’s throwing a hissy fit and believes the myth of American exceptionalism.

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        It doesn’t really matter, even if he gives the order, nobody will push the button for him. Unless NATO tanks are rolling over the border or rockets are falling on Moscow, military commanders will not choose to end their lives (along millions).

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          I used to believe this too, but I’m not so sure anymore. Look at how pathetic and groveling Republicans are around Trump. The cult is real, the propaganda is strong, and people are weak minded.

          I just can’t help but think of that scene in Conan the Barbarian where Thulsa Doom shows Conan what is true power - people listening to his orders without any care for their wellbeing (the scene where the girl jumps to her death because Thulsa Doom told her to jump). People do this type of shit for religions, and a cult is a religion

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        I honestly don’t think this, but who knows. What could be a bad result is some worse leader stepping in or a coup requiring force to execute, then that person flexing their power with an even more violent purge. That seems to happen with unplanned changes of power. They have to kill the “offspring” of the previous leader and eliminate criticism or competition.

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      I’m worried that he actually died during his first term (when he caught COVID) and was replaced with a younger stunt double - and that they could just keep doing this forever. I mean, it wouldn’t be that much more unbelievable than what’s already happened.

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    If CK2 taught me one thing, it’s that claim wars automatically end when the claimant dies. As soon as putin keels over all the red flagged armies in Ukraine will go neutral and have to walk back home.