• SheeEttin@lemmy.zip
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    I implore you all to read the full article. The guy’s truck struck a CBP vehicle week ago. They let him go. Now, they assault and terrorize his family. Read the article. Get mad.

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    It is only continuing to get worse, and the law doesn’t mean anything when The President chooses what laws he will follow. Only one realistic ending here.

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    Hmmmm, instead of Tropico 7 the next iteration should be “Muricana”. Imagine the game with that much space to play a dictator in a Police state!

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      Totally unrealistic, I wouldn’t be able to achieve fully automated gay space communism if it was based in America. Ignore who my trading partners were in the WW2 era.

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      Legally, theoretically just barely maybe, if you have the best lawyers in the country, untill it makes it out of the state court system, or you just encounter any judge with a hardon for LE, which is 99% of them, then no, no you’re going to prison forever.

      Go look up how often a random civillian is able to legally win a case where they shoot and kill a cop who is clearly and obviously acting illegally.

      Pretty much never happens.

      But beyond that, is lethal self defense in this situation practically, realistically, even survivable?

      Hahaha fuck no, not in that situation.

      That was uh, an armored personnel carrier, an extraction team of 6 guys, screened by a perimeter security detail of about double that… and all of those guys were in full military style body armor, lots of ammo, real assault rifles, not crowd control gear.

      You would unironically need RPGs, Heisenberg’s jerry rigged machine gun auto turret, ieds/landmines, and your own full military gear, and probably at least 4 other people in full military gear… to actually stand a chance at surviving just the immediate encounter, and then you’d have to somehow vanish without a trace, amd escape to a country without an extradition treaty with the US.

      This is Baghdad/Mosul/Fallujah style military raid tactics and equipment… while the city of LA broadly is being occupied and pacified with similar Iraq War 2 style doctrine and equipment.

      The only way you could even stand a chance at ‘resisting unlawful lethal force with lethal self defense’ is you and the gang become the Viet Cong.

      Really, I get the sentiment, but uh, no, actually applying your idea here is wildly unrealistic, unless you’re ready to quite literally start an armed resistance movement.

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          I personally agree, but the vast majority of self described ‘leftists’ I’ve ever known in my life are:

          1. Actually liberals who only know how to cry and whine and complain and shift fault and blame

          2. So dismissive and ignorant of firearms, how they work, how shooting works, how tactics work, how logistics work, how opsec works…

          That I would not even go to a gun range with them for fear of them accidentally shooting me, themself, or another person…

          To say nothing of attempting an armed resistance.

          I’ve never even met, in real life, a USAsian self described leftist thst I could convince to stop using tiktok, insta to live broadcast their entire life and current location and surroundings, and maybe use Signal instead.

          Disconnecting from the corpo panopticon surveillance dragnet that is social media and computer/phone OS’s that spy on you 24/7 is the most basic bare minimum prerequisite, and 99% of people can’t even clear that bar.

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      That’s why they go to Huntington Park, not South Central. Same reason they arrest cancer stricken children in courthouses instead of dangerous criminals. Because they’re cowardly bullies who don’t want anyone fighting back. And the one time they tried going into lower income immigrant community, they were chased out by the locals.

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    First they came for the “illegal” immigrants, And I did not speak out, Because I was not a “illegal” immigrant

    Then they came for the immigrants, And I did not speak out, Because I was not a immigrant

    Then they came for the protesters, And I did not speak out, Because I was not a protester

    Then they came for me, And there was no one left, To speak out for me

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            If you think you’re on a list - you are.

            If you think you aren’t - you are.

            Doge+Palantir - You are Already On “The List”

            To the mods, regarding my removed post above:

            I am not advocating violence (yet).

            I am advocating preparedness, knowledge, and the hypothetical necessity of self defense against a massive advanced military complex.

            Reading is fundamental.

            Just because I read the Bible doesn’t make me a Christian, and just because I suggest people understand how to know how to do something does not make that knowledge an action or invocation or inciting or advocating.

            Boy scouts motto: be prepared.

            How can we be prepared if any suggestion of being prepared for / defending againat worst case scenario is actively deemed a call to violence?

            Shall we all lay down and die?

            We are well past the point of denying the future under the current regime.

            Denying it will not slow it down or make it end. Denying it will not save you, or your loved ones. Denying it only works in their favor.

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              Agreed. There is violence being actively committed by ICE and the right wing right now. If the mods silence people resisting that violence, it makes them complict.

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                You could view the modlog and see what the removed comments say :)

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    And this thread is full of cowards illustrating exactly why this is able to happen and will keep on happening.