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    When asked to respond to Falco’s inflammatory remarks, the church said in a statement that the preacher was “only calling for the death penalty and suicide for the actual sodomites (homosexuals). The Bible teaches that those people are worthy of death. They are supposed to be executed by the government. We are not to take the law into our own hands.”

    This is the “reserved” and “compromise” position in their eyes.

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      reminder: these fascists assholes are not human. they give up all humanity when they actively choose to become or remain within this trump nazi cult. so when we say “nazis are not human” we are not dehumanizing them; they did it to themselves.

      these fuckwits need prison. all of them.

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        Nah, they need to be executed. If it’s legal for them to say gay people should be executed, it’s legal for me to say they should be executed.

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        They are human. Hatred and cruelty is part of who we as humans are. The better among us are supposed to keep the monsters in check. We failed.

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          i mean sure in meatspace terms they are physically human but they have done irreparable harm to their internal humanity by supporting this ideology. It’s not just that I “disagree” with fascism (and capitalism and nazism and zionism, among other things) but it’s that there are provable choices these cohorts have made that have done far more harm, even to themselves, than ever imaginable.

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          History is a constant and never ending litany of such “failure”, and we NEVER learn. What’s your backup plan?

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            You’re right, it’s inevitable. The fascist US will be looked back on with disdain as fascist Germany is, there will be reforms to be better, then in a few generations someone will do this shit all over again (assuming we don’t kill ourselves off with nuclear war and/or climate change). All you can do is be the best person you can for those around you.

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          There is no final check on monstrosity. You failed. Accepting your personal limits is healthy. However, there is still plenty of we’s attempting to check the monsters.

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        I don’t think these are technically nazis. Nazis have a political purpose for which they do the things they do. These folks don’t have a purpose or an agenda besides murderlust en powerhunger. Nazis are evil as a byproduct, a side hustle. These folks are evil as their core business.

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      Never mind that the story they are referencing is about the importance of hospitality. It would be more accurate to say that the Bible is saying to kill ICE agents.

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        They haven’t actually read the story if Sodom and Gomorrah, they’ve only had it explained to them by people they outsource critical thought to.

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      From the Passion narrative according to John (John 18)

      29 So Pilate came out to them and asked, “What charges are you bringing against this man?”

      30 “If he were not a criminal,” they replied, “we would not have handed him over to you.”

      31 Pilate said, “Take him yourselves and judge him by your own law.”

      “But we have no right to execute anyone,” they objected.

      Literally the exact same method that the Jewish religious authorities used to try to convince the Romans to execute Jesus because they weren’t allowed to execute people.

      (Note: this is not meant to be antisemitic, just contextual, though the Jews’ role in the execution of Jesus has been and is still used to justify antisemitism)

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        The shit that modern day religious people do might actually scare me into belief that there’s a Satan somewhere giggling his horns off.

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      I mean, what’s the big deal? The church (theirs of course) and the State were never supposed to actually be separate in a secular nation with something as clear as the First Amendment. The Founders with the likes of Jefferson who had a tenuous relationship with xtianity so very obvs meant this place to be JESUSLAND.

      Also, it’d be the STATE doing the murdering, you guys! It’d be a righteous and lawful murdering, because Jebus.

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    “The Bible teaches that those people are worthy of death. They are supposed to be executed by the government. We are not to take the law into our own hands.”

    Ah yes, Jesus was famously pro-death penalty as long as only the state was enforcing it.

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    In a sermon titled, “Pray the Gay Away,” Stephen Falco, an evangelical preacher with the Sure Foundation Baptist Church, yelled from the pulpit, “They’re all a bunch of f-----, that want to walk around, come on our streets, and demand our children. And we should look them in the eye and say, ‘No, you’re not going to have our children!’”

    What a disgusting message. I wouldn’t be sad if this sack of shit got hit by a bus.

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    I hope everyone here is aware that fascism has now taken hold in America and never before in the history of mankind has fascism stepped down when politely asked to do so.

    It has always required force.

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        no other way does exist. Those no kings protests were nice and all but what exactly even remotely, slightly, changed? nothing. they trucked ahead like they will continue to do.

        Democrat politicians will continue to chirp on twitter and make awesome tiktok vids but that’s all it is at the end of the day, talk. I can only watch so many committee hearings and just know “why am I wasting my time watching this? it’s just a dog and pony show and nothing will come of it.”

        Look I admire AOC and Bernie and the rest of them but peaceful protesting is just going to paint a target on their backs for when they come for them and make no mistake, they will.

        I just think Americans should “make it harder” for when the nazi’s eventually do come knocking.

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          I don’t disagree entirely, but I think we’re just slightly off here. Part of the momentum behind Mamdani’s primary win in NY is the foundational movement building that Bernie and AOC have been doing for years, and particularly with the fight oligarchy tour. This is not nothing; NY mayor is one of the most important positions we could capture, even if it’s not radical.

          I agree that we don’t have time for these mainstream do-nothing Democratic politicians like Cory Booker, Hakim Jeffries, and Chuck Schumer. Fuck em. But if we organize and fight, we can make electoral strategy a key part of our agenda and actually win. Elections are not the only space where we can fight and win too!

          Let’s not be overly optimistic OR pessimistic at this point. We’re getting close, but we’re not there yet. I think we can still turn this around without organizing militias, even though it absolutely constitutes legitimate self defense at this point.

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          I just think Americans should “make it harder” for when the nazi’s eventually do come knocking.

          I’m not looking forward to them knocking on my door, but I am prepared.

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      If there is some god… I hope hell is a place reserved for this people…

      before their own painfull death… I hope they suffer, they have to watch all their beloved people, siblings and offspring die horrible painfull deaths and everyone they hold dear suffer, suffer and suffer… until they die as the oldest humans in ages, bound in a catatonic state for decades and I will gleefully keep the machines running that keep them alive!

      And people wonder why I despise all religious institutions, no matter the flavour of their business selling people an empty shell they named hope.

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      never before in the history of mankind has fascism stepped down when politely asked to do so

      Except after the death of Franco. And after a peaceful people’s movements removed the Portuguese junta.

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    They’re all a bunch of f-----, that want to walk around, come on our streets, and demand our children. And we should look them in the eye and say, ‘No, you’re not going to have our children!’

    Statistically, a child is at greater risk of being sexually abused by a preacher than a member of the LGBT community

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    This is something that will eventually Happen. It is already is happening “underground” they just use loopholes to get people killed. Look at the king of hill guy. That’s not just a one off thing. It’s social manipulation. It’s not just happening to them. They know what they are doing. We are already in a social psychological civil war, and it’s not random crazies… it’s people manipulated to go crazy, whether it’s someone murdering, suicides, or pressure that makes someone commit crimes so they end up in prison. This is America.

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      Other Christians don’t care for them. From their google reviews:

      This church is nothing more than a cult disguised as Christianity. They don’t preach the gospel—they preach fear, control, and manipulation. Instead of leading people to Christ, they demand blind loyalty to their leadership, excommunicate anyone who questions them, and tear down other churches rather than spreading love and grace.

      Their toxic, legalistic teachings distort salvation, pushing a works-based doctrine that contradicts Ephesians 2:8-9. They divide families, encouraging members to cut off anyone who doesn’t conform. Instead of strengthening faith, they use spiritual abuse to control people. If you’re looking for a real church that follows Jesus, stay far away from this place.

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        One Christian criticizing another is just typical inter-sect conflict found in most religions. People who are fundamentally kind or fundamentally cruel will both find and interpret passages to support their views. But because it’s “god’s word” they will always refuse to waiver in the face of logic or common sense.

        The problem is that all religion provides fertile ground for both extremists and con artists to grow – in this case both.

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    Gaslight
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    Normal people don’t look at others and think “they want our children [sexually].” 🤮 I’m unaware of any proof that LGBTQ+ folks prey on kids at higher rates than cishet predators. They need to check this guy’s computer and keep him away from children…

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      As far as I have been able to find, the material published on there being a higher per capita amount of preds in the LGBTQ community have been discredited, and most of these claims come from a small number of papers, largely published years ago, by conservative groups pay

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    “It’s a good thing that our current situation couldn’t get any worse.”

    Situation: [gets worse]

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        There isn’t, because the source is his ass.

        This was a pastor in Indiana during a sermon that was live-streamed on Facebook. So, like, funded by a PAC in what way exactly?

        No PAC is mentioned in the article at all, much less a Chick-fil-A backed one. And this isn’t even tied to anything that would require any funding anyway.

        I’m no Chick-fil-A apologist, but like, the idea that this is some secretive super-PAC that Chick-fil-A is using to fund pastors calling for the death of gay people is some Q-Anon level nonsense.