• Avicenna@lemmy.world
          41·
          2 days ago

          kernel updates freak me out though to be fair Fedora might have the highest ratio of (# kernel updates) / (# number of previously working but now broken pipelines), especially if you wait a bit after the update. I used to have a non-linux certified laptop and had an especially bad few years around 2022 with ubuntu where every update I waited for something to break and my screen to randomly flicker. Lost atleast three linux comrades (using the same laptop) that year to ios.

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      4·
      1 day ago

      Arch, a community-driven distro that hostorically required heavy use of the terminal to even install. It presents itself as very sleek and utilitarian (hence plain black girl). Arch users tend toward enthusiasts also commonly in the anime, furry etc. fandoms. Wearers of “Programming socks” almost certainly use arch (hence rainbow girl).

      Ubuntu was historically marketed as the distro for everyone. Ready out of the box, polished GUI, media codecs, marketing materials made by someone who got paid to do them (hence rainbow girl). Ubuntu these days is an exceedingly corporate distro, Canonical really wants to be Microsoft. Ubuntu is very commonly used on servers for commercial and enterprise solutions and end-user desktops are vestigial at this point (hence plain black girl).

    • drath@lemmy.world
      433·
      2 days ago

      A lot of arch users are kids fucking with thinkpads ricing up their systems and putting anime wallppapers while not doing anything serious.

      Ubuntu is commonly used by researchers and hardware developers who don’t really care about distro as long as it’s linux. The amount of times I saw people use the entire distro with default gnome skin just to launch a terminal to run their black hole simulation, the crypto cracker or some centrifuge control script… I myself am neither but ubuntu has been my go to as well since I usually don’t have time to screw with archinstall, so I just use ubuntu as good starting point and then tweak the internals as I go.

      • Semperverus@lemmy.worldEnglish
        19·
        2 days ago

        I feel like I’m the odd person out, using Arch like most people use Windows. I play games, do taxes, shop online, and do very minimal customizing, mostly just in KDE settings.

        It’s a shockingly stable system for how “bleeding edge” it is.

      • B-TR3E@feddit.org
        10·
        2 days ago

        Hmm. They have some surprisingly good documentation and user forums for a bunch of kids just fooling around. Very much unlike Ubuntu. I’ve learned years ago that Arch has good HOWTOs and solutions to common Linux problems that you won’t easily find elsewhere, while you better avoid Ubuntu’s forums unless you want to pick the one correct answer out of hundreds of posts guessing blindly at trivial questions. I have been using Debian for 25 years, so I don’t have a horse in that race, it’s just what I noticed.

    • Jankatarch@lemmy.world
      51·
      2 days ago

      Arch users have the most whacky, customized computers you can find. Meanwhile arch itself is a small distro with very little features out the box.

      Ubuntu as a distro has tons of features out the box but ubuntu users generally just keep the default without adding or using any features.

      • REDACTED@infosec.pubEnglish
        72·
        2 days ago

        I think a statistic about how much of your userbase keeps the default config could be a testament to how good your OS is

        • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
          1·
          13 hours ago

          How do you even measure that? If you add a single line to some dot config you’ve changed a config. Further, a huge group of people intentionally want to be supplied configs that are minimal so they can edit them how they please.

        • Rivalarrival@lemmy.todayEnglish
          31·
          2 days ago

          I think it is a testament of how bloated it is. I mean, we could get 20 Linux users together, list every package we have collectively installed, and produce a new distro with all of those packages that would serve all 20 of us without needing to add anything else. But our new distro would easily be the largest available, and none of us would use everything we’ve included.

    • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
      12·
      2 days ago

      I think the joke is on how people customize the visuals of their distro vs how the distro presents itself.

    • pelya@lemmy.world
      2311·
      2 days ago

      Arch is hard to install, hard to configure, and hard to use, because it requires cryptic commandline knowledge at every step.

      People who use Arch generally know very well what they are doing, so their system works with no issues, which they never forget to mention in every conversation.

      Ubuntu is a novice-friendly Linux distribution, but since the majority of it’s users are novices or Windows 11 refugees, they generate a lot of complaints on forums.

  • brev@infosec.pub
    94·
    2 days ago

    This is why I use Fedora

    Instantly works, and I never need to dedicate hours to fixing stuff when something breaks

    • hellmo_luciferrari@lemmy.zip
      12·
      2 days ago

      I mean, the pictures don’t even hint on “broken things” And I don’t care what operating system you use, every single one has the capability to break.

  • Chivera@lemmy.world
    11·
    2 days ago

    What’s the best Linux distro for an easy switch from Windows?

    Thank you everyone!! My PC is being left behind by Windows 11.

    • ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml
      391·
      2 days ago

      +1 to Mint. It is a very easy transition & you will not have ragerts.

      Pros:

      1. prettier than windows while having a similar interface

      2. more responsive than windows

      3. more stable than windows

      4. zero spyware/bloatware

      5. basically the same level of software compatibility as windows

      Only things that take some research ahead of time or getting used to imo:

      1. deciding how you want to partition your drives during installation (you can let it automatically do this, but there are reasons to create a different partition structure across drives/have different sized partitions),

      2. mounting drives. There are GUI tools for this (file explorer for mounting, gparted for formatting), so it really isn’t a big deal, but it is a little more difficult than with Windows and you may need to reformat your drives depending what file format they’re currently in.

      3. make sure your motherboard/video card/cpu all work well with linux. They should, but just check first.

      4. note that games requiring kernel level anticheat (aka spyware) won’t work. So if that’s a deal breaker, then dual boot or don’t switch.

      • simbico@lemmy.zip
        14·
        3 days ago

        +1 mint

        I also have a bit higher FPS in some games (both proton and native) but some just don’t run at all

        • Darren@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          5·
          2 days ago

          +1 for Mint as a gateway drug.

          I started on Mint back in October. My server is still running Mint, because I can’t be arsed with setting everything up on another distro, but my work machine is on KDE Neon. And that isn’t safe.

    • seralth@lemmy.worldEnglish
      29·
      2 days ago

      Do you want a reliable basic PC? Mint

      Are you a non technical gamer? Bazzite

      Are you a technical gamer? Cachy os

      End of the day your distro is little more then the starting defaults.

      Any distro can do anything. With few expections.

      But for gaming you can save yourself a LOT of headache using a distro that has all the gaming related fluff preset up out of the box.

      • FundMECFS@lemmy.cafeEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        I heard Mint and Elementary both mentioned a lot for switchers.

        Any reason you recommend mint over it?

        Never tried either of them myself so just curious.

        • FryHyde@lemmy.zip
          2·
          1 day ago

          Mint is very user-friendly, and can utilize all the handy apps that are packaged for Ubuntu. I don’t really enjoy the default interface of Ubuntu (it feels like a mobile OS in a lot of ways). Mint really does a good job of stripping that down and recreating a basic windows-like experience., while taking advantage of all the compatibility and software support that Ubuntu has.

        • SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          2 days ago

          Mint is great for older hardware performance wise. It’s also one of the most polished distros in terms of things like updates, settings and updates. The Ubuntu/Debian ecosystem is also better supported by 3rd parties than Arch and Red Hat.

          Elementary is a lot of the same, but the UI is more for Mac refugees.

          It is lagging a bit on the latest gaming support. Thats what bazzite(Fredora) and CachyOS(Arch) are doing very well at the moment. They are a bit heavier on hardware requirements though, but still less than Windows.

    • Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      4·
      1 day ago

      If you want something that barely ever changes and works today as its gonna work 5 years from now, then Mint. If you want constant compatibility with the shiniest new stuff, then an atomic fedora distro (Bazzite for gaming, aurora/bluefin for general purpose).

        • seralth@lemmy.worldEnglish
          61·
          2 days ago

          Fedora is one of the worst option there is to suggest to a windows convert for this very reason.

          At least suggest bazzite if your going to shove fedora at a windows user.

          Serious new users should stick to mint or cachy. Depending if they are a gamer or not.

        • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
          23·
          2 days ago

          Ah yes, proprietary software, just the “basics” of course. Just install them from the nonfree repo if you want them.

            • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
              22·
              2 days ago

              Literally never once had a problem playing any video in browser, from a variety of sites (social media, streaming services, news sites, file sharing sites, ZERO problems. All videos have played every time.)

              Again, just install them if you want them. Nothing is stopping or preventing you from having them, you’re just choosing to complain about something that isn’t even a problem. Users should expect that all the software they want to use comes preinstalled with the OS, including software with EULAs and proprietary licenses that they must agree to, and they’ll never ever need to install a software package? 🙄

                • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world
                  31·
                  2 days ago

                  You’re just factually incorrect as both twitch and twitter videos play perfectly out of the box.

                  What an arduous mountain you’ve created from the molehill of installing a package using a package manager. My eyes can’t roll harder

                  EDIT: I just checked and adding the nonfree repo and installing the package can even be done entirely from the Discover GUI. It’s literally just a checkbox 🤡 God forbid the user check a box in a GUI, it’ll send them straight back to Windows 😂

    • oppy1984@lemdro.idEnglish
      5·
      2 days ago

      I switched 10 years ago, started on Ubuntu and hated it, switched to ZorinOS and gained understanding, then switched to Mint and found a home. I now recommend Mint to all windows refugees, it’s layed out similar enough to be intuitive and let’s you learn Linux at a comfortable pace.

      Tl;Dr - switch to Linux Mint when leaving windows.

    • Olhonestjim@lemmy.world
      1·
      2 days ago

      I’m not helpless with computers, but I am not a power user. I browse, game, watch videos, maintain an old mp3 collection, etc. I don’t really program.

      I went with PopOS and it’s been perfectly fine. No issues or complaints to speak of.

    • besmtt@lemmy.worldEnglish
      61·
      3 days ago

      I’ve used Ubuntu and multiple flavors of mint. I like bazzite the best. Literally zero problems since I switched.

    • rtxn@lemmy.worldM
      3·
      2 days ago

      That question is like asking which superhero is the strongest in a comic shop. There is an answer, but some people have made their own opinion part of their identity, and are extremely passionate emotional about it.

      It’s Linux Mint, by far. Others like Fedora and Pop are solid choices, and things like Arch, Bazzite, or CachyOS have their merits, but Mint offers by far the most uncomplicated, entry-level experience.

    • sanderium@lemmy.zipEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      Some time ago I answered this question on a post that seems have been deleted but got some good feedback:

      The most important decision as a new Linux user is the desktop environment, the most similar desktop environment to the Windows desktop are KDE Plasma and Cinnamon. This means your best options are:

      • Linux Mint (Cinnamon): They are the creators of the Cinnamon desktop environment and will be the default on installation.
      • Kubuntu (KDE Plasma): This is Ubuntu’s official KDE Plasma flavour, it comes with everything as usual just different desktop.
      • Fedora (KDE Edition): Same story as Ubuntu here, only that with Fedora’s own packages and environment.

      First I would check if the hardware is compatible (99% of the time is). Then I would check what software you need and/or want and check if it is available at these distros, and get familiar on how to install the software packages (either with their respective app stores or in the command line).

      There is a lot to learn but with these distros you can just install, forget and simply keep using them for eternity.

      The last and more important tip I have is to not to worry about the sea of options out there, you will not be missing anything huge by picking one or the other. Which is how most of new users feel (I did in my time).

      Hope you have a great Linux journey mate!

  • Rhaedas@fedia.io
    71·
    2 days ago

    Ubuntu users here wanted to go Debian, but also want to live in the current world.

    • NeilBrü@lemmy.worldEnglish
      10·
      2 days ago

      Kubuntu with --minimal-install (no snap fuckery) has been my unironic “S-Tier” computing experience in life.

    • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
      4·
      2 days ago

      Debian isn’t that far behind. (0-2 years) If you want the latest packages don’t choose Debian.

      If you want something newer go for Fedora or maybe even Arch.