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This juxtaposition.
Leaving aside Arch and Nix for the moment… imagine rating Ubuntu over Mint. The depravity of the human mind know no limits.
unrelated, but what on green earth happened in the inbox?
They’ll never see your question
I use mint, btw
Me: Btw how old are your packages?
Mint: Its rude to ask the age of a distro
Me: well are the maintained properly?
Mint: uhhhh… Some of them are
Well. I have an issue and I’m just gonna drop it here as a last ditch effort.
In my Mint Software Manager, I noticed that certain data won’t come through.
Specifically the reviews are not displayed. All applications have 4.5 stars. No reviews whatsoever.
How could I fix this?
Can you confirm that you are connected to internet?
If you want people to help you, they’ll need logs. To get them,
- close the software manager if running
- type
mintinstallin the terminal, then press Enter - copy the result with “right-click > copy” or “ctrl+shift+C”
Send me that and I can give it a look. Can’t promise much though, I’m not a Mint user. When you have Mint issues, consider asking in the Mint forum
Usual suspect, the Wi-Fi/Bluetooth card. Milk spoils? Wi-Fi/Bluetooth Card! Freshly divorced? Wi-Fi/Bluetooth card!
Not true, sometimes it’s DNS.
Tried Fedora KDE just recently, and apparently the latest version broke something and you just get a black screen on some laptops, fresh install and all. Found some random ISO someone posted and that one worked, but kinda crazy it’s been over a month that this is known to not work and the official ISO is still borked
What really annoyed me is, that for some goddamn reason fedora renamed or removed the dnf command to add repository’s and now each time I want to add a repository I have to write the config file by hand.
Hey Mint could I have audio please?
Mint: No and never ask again.
I still use it though.
So I’m not the only one?!
Been using Fedora on several laptops and desktops, and haven’t had issues with wifi. Or with anything else for that matter. For me, everything in Fedora just works and never breaks.
The first bug I’ve seen was recently. Apparently an update broke the ‘shutdown and update’ function in Fedora Workstation. So now when you press it, nothing happens. Then when you try shutting down, the PC will shut down without updating. It’ll update and shutdown upon next boot. Can confirm Fedora KDE is unaffected though.
For me, everything in Fedora just works and never breaks.
Apparently an update broke the ‘shutdown and update’ function in Fedora Workstation.
Hmmmmmmm
And Kinonite by extension. I updated and restarted because I like fresh kernels.
Don’t judge me, it’s my kink OK. In my sad, pathetic little white bread life in the middle of nowhere.
I remember this sort of stuff a long time ago. There were wifi drivers that were either linux, but closed source, or horror of horrors having to resort to ndiswrapper…
Of course, the Ubuntu derivatives made this easy enough by just including it, but Fedora was much more purist about open source and so wouldn’t even tell you about rpm-fusion, let alone enable proprietary drivers for basic network access.
Now Fedora has edged a bit more practical and proactively let’s users know about how to add proprietary stuff and the wifi industry takes Linux seriously, if not for desktop use then for all the embedded use cases they would be left out of without good Linux support. Fedora is still a bit far on the ‘purist’ side still (try to play a lot of media using dnf provided software, it will tend to break), but not as hard as it used to be)
I’ve had Fedora on a Thinkpad X300, Thinkpad T420 (what I’m typing on right now), and Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 GA402RK. The last has a Mediatek MT7922, unlike the prior 2 with Intel wireless – and they all have worked flawlessly.
my wifi in mint works perfectly. getting the screen to rotate in tablet mode is another story.
Distro hoping is fine. But there is a certain feeling you get when you can fix your own problems by reading the arch wiki
Distro hoping is fine.
Yeah. I hope my distro keeps working as smooth as always. I really hope.
How to enter arch wiki if no internet
For shit and giggles, it should be on Arch Wiki too.
On your other Arch laptop, obviously. You need multiple pre-owned ThinkPads loaded with Arch at any given time to maintain workable redundancy, just like you need several clean pairs of programming socks.
…“clean”? Well shit, I have some work to do then!:-P
Your optimism about sock cleanliness is wonderful
Phone or use an offline copy
Going to save this link just in case the Internet goes down one day.
Whenever I have a Linux box without Internet I just USB tether an Android phone—if the phone is on WiFi then it uses that (not cell), so it’s basically just a WiFi adapter that’s almost universally supported. (I think it NATs, so in some circumstances won’t work, but good enough for most emergency use cases.)
I’ve never tried that. I do the wifi hotspot but what do I need to do USB tether?
Another option that’s available is hosting your own Kiwix instance and downloading the Arch Wiki .zim file.
I have a few other .zim’s from the Kiwix library including Alpine Wiki, Stack Overflow, Man pages and a full copy of Wikipedia. There’s a lot available at that Kiwix library which can make for a good offline digital library.
Just download it and setup on your own server
I am a nerd with many computers. That helps.
I use the Arch wiki for non arch stuff
That and the man pages
You guys read man pages?
You ever read the man pages for mount?
The ones for goo are especially satisfying.
Should i?
man mountY’all are using Linux for that?
I won‘t lie the Arch Wiki has not helped me once. Odd threads in the forums or 2 minute long Youtube videos, though? Couldn‘t make it without those.
Total oposite experience for me.
I tried basically every distro on my laptop and fedora worked all hardware 100% out of the box + printer + fingerprint reader + all day battery life
Fedora gnome is so good it makes Linux boring
Linux being boring is a good thing. I want my OS to be boring. I use Mint, BTW
Unless there is an update and you have to wait for a couple of months to get all the extensions back
And then you just go to extensions.gnome.org and tell to run the extensions anyway by ignoring the GNOME version
Don’t have much experience but I run extensions designed for 45 on 49 without any problem
Unfortunately for me GNOME without extensions it’s unusable and I don’t have the patience to stay 3-4 versions behind to ensure compatibility
Edit: I wrote the wrong URL, it was .org and not .com
I didn’t know that. I’ll check it our asap, thx!!!
Fedora gnome is so good it makes Linux boring
Is this a workflow thing? I was looking at Fedora last week and I’m interested to hear what you like about it.
I’m on Cinnamon and made everything look like OSX, but it seemed like gnome would have a learning curve. And as much as KDE looks like Windows NT, something a touch more modern does seem nice.
Lol KDE looks like windows NT? Uh… No.
Wobbly windows is best thing ever by the way.
KDE looks like whatever you want.
Well, I’ve only seen KDE on TW, so maybe it was just the default theme color scheme that gave me NT flashbacks. Though I did actually mean that as a compliment. Maybe I also don’t remember NT well enough.
Gnome extensions can look pretty much exactly like kde or better depending on your taste, kde is easier to customize and more intuitive. I like that gnome is extension based with each extension being something you pick, many having their own customization and settings.
Some extensions I like: Arcmenu: start menu like windows, kde, etc. lots of layout options, replaces the hot corner big icon search menu thing
Dash to dock: use on handheld, perfect touchscreen menu customizable or (use one at a time) Dash to panel: use on desktop, even more customizable, basically gives you a panel since gnome by default has the hot corner android like app menu (which I also use mostly on the handheld, love the hot corner for moving stuff around)
Windows thumbnails (pip any window, monitor downloads or chats)
I use a lot more but forget the names, nothing really breaks if you toggle use incompatible addons or whatever it’s called. You can also edit the addon and change the version since that is what the devs do 90% of the time to update it.
I really like the top bar, hot corner, workplace swapping on mouse scroll, control center, etc. Kde is a close second for me, and I may be swapping back soon just because I get bored using the same thing. Prob not if you can’t backup your layout, really like what my gnome desktop looks like and its functional/productive.
Tophat is great for quick resource monitoring. Ddterm for a dropdown terminal. Campeek to quickly check webcam. A timer for self timing some online work I do that is self reported. It’s just perfectly setup and not crowded at all while having so much. I do miss the pop out tab sticky notes on kde.
If I put my Mint computer to sleep, the wifi adapter stops working completely. 🤡
First thing to do on most linux distros, but especially mint, is turn off everything sleep-related forever.
I feel like no OS can get sleep to work properly lol
Sadly, MacOS is leading the pack with sleep working as expected. This is the most cursed timeline.
And in true macOS fashion it only works if you stay within the Apple ecosystem.
Applications and sleep are intimately tied to native macOS workspaces, which are themselves cursed af.
If you use an alternative manager, like Aerospace (which reimplemented workspace/tiling), then applications cannot sleep properly, leading to severe battery drain.
If I had to guess it’s because Apple controls both hard- and software. Sleep is a delicate business where both the OS and the hardware have to work together to get it right. Linux and Windows run on an endless combination of different hardware components whereas Apple knows exactly on what hardware their OS will run.
Feren OS on a ThinkPad L390 sleeps and wakes perfectly. Probably because of thinkpad
SteamOS gets it mostly right
my desktop with arch (btw) also sleeps and wakes without issues
Same with my Arch install btw, suspend works fine. 🤷♂️
I’ve literally never had a problem with this…that I know about.
What are you all turning off?
Ha! It’s the one issue that’s been giving me the biggest headache through multiple distros. To be fair I believe most of my problems originate from Nvidia hardware and software.
God yes, it was fucking with my partners graphics drivers, and killed most games I have running.
Wrong target, the graphics drivers are.
I’ve been having this exact same problem. I don’t have a fix, but hey, comradery.
It’s annoying, but it isn’t feeding my data into the AIs.
Anecdotally i had to screw around with packages and drivers and updates and what not to get wifi to work on latest Mint with a Broadcom, but nothing egregious or anything.
I’ve run into the same with the latest Ubuntu using a broadcom wireless. Might be a broad failure.
