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I can barely even understand how anyone could think PBS is propaganda.
None of these chuds have ever watched a minute of PBS in their adult lives.
Its a mistake to believe that this is an irrational or ignorant decision. These guys KNOW what the message of PBS is and there is a reason they don’t want it to get to kids. They are making child soldiers and they don’t want people giving them inconvenient values.
You guys are telling jokes while the other side is building an army. Maybe start taking this shit seriously.
100%. American liberals really do think this is just more of the same old Bush-era GOP misbehavior and are responding to it as such.
The thing is, if you’re an American and you know how hard it is to simply vote out fascism, and if you understand how close America’s empire is to the brink of disaster, you’re either running or, lacking the means, mentally preparing yourself for a struggle to survive.
I pulled up stakes and left, but I still have to keep my sense of humour to stay sane.
BIG lol at anyone who thinks voting is the way to fix this.
Yeah, alright. Big lol at anyone who thinks knowing history magically makes you safe, while we’re at it.
lol. Everyone knows the only way to fix this is to troll liberals on Lemmy. lol.
Yep. Yeah. Yes.
It’s over.
It’s really easy! If you imagine that a black person and a white person could never be friends or spend positive time together, and then you saw a show that had them together, you might conclude the show is trying to convince you something is okay that you know is not. Propaganda.
If you imagine that a gay person is inherently wrong, and that bad things deserve to happen to them as punishment for their choices, and then you watch a show where a gay person is happy and normal and respected, you might conclude the show is trying to push an idea on you that you already know isn’t right. Propaganda.
It’s sad, and dangerous, but it’s not complicated.
Thank you so much for commenting this. It’s so annoying to see both the original screenshot and so many exchanges in here either playing dumb or actually being dumb about WHY they see PBS as propaganda. As always, people are more interested in appearing to preach epic gotcha wins to their own choir, while totally sweeping the real meaning of their opponent’s statement under the rug. It’s not being nice and learning to read that the right takes issue with PBS over, it’s race, gender, and sexuality issues. But rather than respond to them on that more difficult ground, the masses choose to go for pointless low hanging fruit like “lol so you hate kindness???”, and then congratulate the OP for owning the right, meanwhile the right is totally unphased by that completely off-topic mark-missing response. And then we wonder why the right sees us as a bunch of circlejerky bubble-world morons.
Tolerance for others and their inherent traits is basic kindness. So yes, if you are not OK with black/queer people than you hate kindness.
And then we wonder why the right sees us as a bunch of circlejerky bubble-world morons.
Modern western “right wing” are outright fascists. We should not concern ourselves with what they think of us, except if it helps us fight their ideology. You won’t be able to convince them with logical arguments of any quality, because they hold their position not because of logic but because of repeated propaganda that leverages the inherent human fear of unknown and different.
The most realistic way I see of things changing is as follows:
Capitalism will inevitably squeeze those people harder and harder, until they can’t afford groceries and rent, despite millions of immigrants being deported and woke TV programs being banned. At that point they might question their ideology and yearn for change, and the left needs to be ready. If the western left once again squanders its potential and do-nothing neolibs (a-la Biden or Harris) get back in office, you can kiss your civil rights goodbye, because they won’t fix the fundamental issues with the system and the voters will swing to fascists again the next cycle.
What needs to happen is that at least demsocs like Mamdani getting into offices all over the country. If that happens, they might at least do something to fight against capitalism and unlimited extraction of surplus labor, and improve material conditions for people, at least a little bit. If that happens under left’s watch, people will associate the ideology with good material conditions, and will appreciate its other tenets (human rights, equality, tolerance, inclusion) more. Whether this leads to vaguely left-wing rule for a while, a-la FDR, or an actual outright revolution is of course questionable, but it’s the only way forward for the US IMHO.
Very well put
If you imagine a channel that endorses genocide… Oh wait no need to imagine.
I can barely even understand how anyone could think PBS is propaganda.
Propaganda, that’s how.
The Reich wing is infuriatingly effective at using projection as both a defensive measure and an assault.
I have an uncle who thinks anything to the left of NewsMax or OAN is “too liberal” (yes that includes Fox News). The indoctrination is real
Cool, and your uncle has a nephew who thinks PBS is not propaganda. Apple doesn’t fall far from the tree.
Or maybe they did. Seaseme Street might go over the heads of maga voters. And Mr Rodgers messages of inclusion and empathy are far out of their mental grasp.
It’s Arkansas, what did you expect?
Maybe if PBS ran a show on how to hook up with your cousin?
That’s how we got into this mess to begin with.
“Think”
Arkansas
Heh.
Most people are idiots and the bell curve isn’t as wide as you’d like to think.
And there’s always the George Carlin perspective:
Think of how stupid the average person you meet is.
Now, realize that half the population is dumber than that.
To give some uh, anchoring to this…
The average American adult… a d u l t …
Is currently as literate as a 5th to 6th grader.
In conclusion; Yes, it is objectively correct to state and believe that most people are idiots, at least if we’re talking about the US.
… and Arkansas… is pretty damned close to winning the idiot contest.
“Powerful stupid”, you might say.
If it’s not their propaganda they think it is the other way… instead of ya know… just facts or basic learning.
How many children upvote this nonsense?
PBS is literally overt propaganda. The amazing thing is how people don’t see it. We’re so immersed in the hegemonic narrative, the droning voice of the state that we can’t recognize the obvious overwhelming bias.
The most glaring recent example is their complete endorsement of the genocide in Palestine. But that’s just the tip of the iceberg.
Ah yes the hegemonic narrative of… the scientific method. The droning voice of…kindness.
What a hellscape.
When did PBS endorce the genocide?
That book should be the US constitution.
It looks like it is.
Yeah, I would love to see an eagle tear up that enslaver pact.
That’s fucked up. Funny. But also kinda… “idk you like that”. Gay
PBS isn’t perfect, but it’s publicly accountable and transparent—more than most for-profit networks.
The exact reason it has to go. Too much oversight, not enough pandering and way way too much science.
Edit = This will in fact cost PBS a small amount of money.
PBS is part-funded by government, but also relies on transmission fees paid by the affiliates for network programming, as well as corporate and viewer donations. This will further reduce the money in the PBS system as it will no longer get fees or donations from Arkansas.
My mistake.
PBS is already funded.
By whom? Where do you think the propaganda comes from?
It’s brought to you by viewers like you. If you watched PBS, especially during pledge drive time, you would know today about 75% of funding comes from small donors.
The fact that American taxpayers actually finance right-wing indoctrination to a considerable extent seems to be overlooked here, which is probably due to this very right-wing indoctrination.
Kind and smart are just not MAGAt values
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Then chalk this item up with the million-and-one things that are completely ignored by the
spiritually purifiedlazy mediocre idiots who passively let all this happen, this death by a million-and-one cuts, since Reagan.But boy oh boy by golly, they sure do feel they are doing their part by chuckling at political zingers online, after the damage is done, because they let the mouth-breathers through the front door and gave them the goddamned keys to the house and car in the first place.
Keep pretending that the Democrats lost the election because of a conspiracy of online users further to the left of you, and not because they ran a botched campaign with an unelectable candidate.
there can be two things
Ok, now quantify how many terminally online young leftists who didn’t vote dem there are in the USA
Keep pretending like “Abandon Harris” and shit like that wasn’t pushed relentlessly offline by “Bernie Bro” idiots.
It was mostly different elements of the Left, not really “Bernie Bros”. Bernie himself was out there campaigning for Biden and Harris the entire time. I think we need a better name for the Left factions who supported Trump in the election, misidentifying them is only going to create more divisiveness. Those “Bernie Bros” who listened to Bernie during the campaign and did what they could to stop Republicans don’t deserve to be lumped in with the dumbasses who actually helped them win.
I would love to know why Biden was electable but Harris was not.
Care to explain?
I can only speak from my experience, but my mom voted Trump, Biden, Trump.
She voted for first Trump because her church told her you can’t vote for Clinton because she’s not a Christian, and she’s always been apprehensive of Women in leadership.
She voted Biden because Trump’s actions clearly showed he wasn’t Christian.
She would have voted for Biden again. She struggled whether Trump or Harris were lesser evil. Too many Harris ads taking about reproductive rights she just couldn’t force herself to vote Harris.
Your mom sounds like a weak person, unable to think for herself, and who betrayed her own gender. Honestly, I’d be too embarrassed to comment on her, if she was my mom…
it’s very simple. the US is rampantly, unabashedly sexist. patriarchally sexist and racist, even huge chunks of the left. i hate it. i’ve fought my entire adult life to change it. but that doesn’t make it untrue. and we needed to win to stop waves hands frantically in the air all of this so we could keep making progress against the sexism and racism.
don’t get me wrong, i voted for her and i’d do it again.
she may have been the correct choice for feminism and anti-racism. i wanted her to win, to prove that America was “better than that”. but i knew it wasn’t. she was not the correct choice for a winning campaign. not here, unfortunately. not yet. and now all that progress toward fixing those things is now stomped in the mud by the Dems making a bad bet.
but also, she’s a police bootlicker and even i, a staunch believer that Trump is actively destroying the entire world, didn’t like that.
https://blueprint.ucla.edu/feature/kamala-harris-california-top-cop/ https://capitalbnews.org/kamala-harris-criminal-justice-record/ https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/kamala-harris-has-finally-embraced-being-a-cop.html https://www.americanprogressaction.org/article/harris-has-long-supported-both-law-enforcement-and-community-collaborations-that-keep-people-safe/
I’m sure with furrowed brow they would respond in a caveman like tone “Biden man, Harris girl. Girl bad, man goooood.”
I desperately wanted Kamala to win but goddammit I agree with you.
An “unelectable candidate” is not an obstacle. I mean, look at what the GOP ran…!
Trump won the maximum number of elections winnable in the USA, what makes him unelectable?
Have you actually had your eyes open for the last 10 years?
FFS a convicted rapist and 32 time fraudster, probable pedophile, who’s using the office of POTUS to enrich himself and his awful family? A man whose negligence and mismanagement in his first term lost over a million extra lives to Covid. A man who betrayed all undercover CIA assets to Russia. A man who betrayed long time allies, the Kurds, to a genocide by Turkey. Who betrayed all the Afghans who helped America, to the Taliban. A man who is bombing small boats in the Caribbean, and double tapping any survivors. A man who is selling out Ukraine to please his owner, Putin, and of course for his own personal profit, and who has already done the same to the Palestinians… A man who is disappearing American citizens, and other LEGAL visitors off the streets, to third world prisons… Even though he “won” ( and I believe Elmo committed some fraud to help him win a second term…), by every metric and standard that exists outside of tRump America, the man is unelectable. I don’t even think he’s human, tbh…he’s some sort of lizard creature with no normal human qualities. The fact that you even ask such a question tells me all I need to know about YOU, magat !
You can make the list as big as you want. Trump is a pedophile and a fascist, and I’m a European communist who hates his fucking guts. But the measure of electability is NOT being a good, moral person, it’s winning elections. I also hate Obama for his warcrimes, but he was electable as fuck.
unelectable candidate.
It’s a FPTP system. She literally just had to be not worse than Trump. She was fine.
trump’s base was excited. hers was alienated.
centrists think that that “marginally better than trump. sometimes. if we have to.” is sufficient to win. It’s not.
Fix your shit and you’ll win.
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Lie to someone else.
If she was fine, why did she lose the elections TO TRUMP
Have you seen the first row of inaguration?
Was it full of terminally online lefties?
Because she was only fine, and humans are illogical idiots who need to be externally motivated to act in their own self interest.
I know I sound jaded, but it’s beyond stupid that he won. A vote for a literal corpse would’ve made more logical sense for anyone who isn’t far right wing. But fuck critical thinking, I guess.
Wow the Harris campaign strategist has entered the chat.
FPTP: obvious on the internet, unknowable to candidates
How the FUCK was Harris an “unelectable candidate”?
Keep pretending that your “both sides” bullshit was 1.) limited to the internet and 2.) didn’t have a massive impact on lowering voter participation.
You’re STILL FUCKING DOING IT, DUMBASS. You are saying, right here and now, that Harris was worse than Trump. HOW? For ONCE, fucking explain yourself.
How the FUCK was Harris an “unelectable candidate”?
She lost the election, have you heard of that?
You are saying, right here and now, that Harris was worse than Trump
No, I’m saying she was less electable. She decided to run a campaign of satisfying her Zionist overlords instead of gaining popular vote, she got the results she wanted. The Democrats would rather lose the elections than present an antizionist candidate
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Seriously, the fake “progressives” who refused to vote are the most detestable group in this mess. At least Trump supporters are brainwashed idiots. Fake “progressives” knew better and STILL helped Trump come back to power.
How does the state have the power to prevent PBS from being broadcast? PBS is broadcast on affiliate stations that aren’t owned by the state (usually)
AETN was the affiliate there, they cut ties. State is taking credit cause racing to the bottom is Arkansas to a T
When your entire platform is “dumb people will let us do whatever the hell we want”, reading and education become your enemies.
“Accuse your opponent of what you are guilty of yourself” as per Goebbels
“Accuse your opponent of what you are guilty of yourself" as per every toddler ever
No joke
Elementary school teacher here. 95% of “he hit me” tattles are followed up with, “Only because he hit me first!”
Deny accountability, reverse victim and offender.
So, Mr Rogers, Sesame Street, Nova… were all propaganda?
The letter of the day is F, for Fake Fucking News.
Nova
I know plenty of people who think saying the earth is >10,000 years old is propaganda.
There was a Nova episode in the 1970s that was dedicated to a crazy rich guy’s hare-brained scheme to mine minerals off of the sea floor.
Then, about thirty years later another Nova episode revealed that the mining scheme from the earlier episode was a CIA cover story to cover up for a top secret claw game operation to lift a sunken Soviet submarine off of the sea floor.
So I guess the first one was fake news.
When the orange rapist dies these freaks are going to keep dragging this nation down for the remainder of our lives.
The people financing Trump are the puppeteers, they will immediately switch to another puppet.
This is stupid on so many levels.
I hope PBS then starts teaching kids that it’s pronounced Ar-Kansas, not Ar-kin-saw.
I always wondered about this actually. Why the two radically different pronunciations of “Kansas” between the two states so close to each other.
Also wondered that. Looks like it was based on how the French transliterated the names of native groups and then how Americans ended up pronouncing each one.
Kansas comes for the native group called the Kansa. The French added a consonant on the end, which is not pronounced in French. Seems the French added that final “s” to indicate a people rather than individual, like les Illinois. So in French, Kansas meant “the Kansa people” and was pronounced “Kansa”.
In English, that final “s” is pronounced, so we have Kansas.
Arkansas originated with the French transliteration of the Quapaw native group. The Quapaw and Kansa were originally part of a larger group that split when it migrated down the Ohio and Mississippi rivers, so neighboring tribes referred to them all as “akansa” or “arkansa”.
So the French called the Quapaw branch “Arkansas” without pronouncing that final “s”. This time, however, when English speakers predominated, they retained something closer to the French pronunciation, leaving us with “Ar-kan-saw”.
Apparently it kind of went back and forth for a bit. In 1881, the Arkansas state legislature put an end to the debate, declaring “Ar-can-saw” the official pronunciation, my guess would be to differentiate them from Kansas.
Part of the reason it the French pronunciation survived in Arkansas is probably because there used to be a decent French and French Creole speaking populations in the region. Hell the Ozarks were largely colonized by the Scots-Irish and if my Irish-Louisianian ancestor is anything to go by then they may have adopted French along side English and possibly Gaelic. Hell my ancestor spoke English, Gaelic, and French natively since his father was Irish and his mother was French Louisianan.
Thanks for sharing. That makes perfect sense as well.
Its such an insignificant amount of money to fund PBS. It’s mostly paid by donations and sponsors anyway. If they really wanted to save taxpayers money they should look elsewhere first… but thats a harder question that might rustle a few of their own feathers. Not only do they try to take the easiest route that doesn’t involve their side, but they want to make people think it’s a win. PBS isnt greasing their palms, so out it goes.
PBS provide contrary content to right wing, that is why its a threat to them.
It has nothing to do with money.
