• wander1236@sh.itjust.works
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    Seeing as the quoted post is from Matt Walsh, I’m a little concerned about what would end up in his definition of an 8th grade civics exam.

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      (That’s page 1 of 3, BTW, just in case anybody thought the 10-minute time limit sounded easy.)

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        This is one of the tests they used to disenfranchise black voters before, isn’t it?

        Matt Walsh is a racist POS.

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        I mean… I’m not a native English speaker, so maybe that’s why I’m having a hard time here? But there’s just too many things that throw me off completely.

        • “Draw a line around”… How would anything I draw “around” something still be a line? Shouldn’t a line be straight?
        • “Draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence.”… There’s no number in that sentence but lots of letters. I’m literally lost in the first question. Or does that refer to the number that comes before that sentence?
        • “write the last letter of the first word beginning with ‘L’”… For some reason, this in particular doesn’t limit it to “this line”, so I was utterly unsure if I was supposed to find the first word on the line, the page, or get a dictionary and find the first L-word there.
        • “Cross out the number necessary, when making the number below one million”… Wat? Like, is this referring to the number being below the written line on the paper and it should be exactly one million or is this just saying the number should be anything below one million? Also, there’s just one number there, so crossing that out leaves me with nothing, so I’ll just assume I should cross out a digit? Then again, I can’t cross out a single digit for the number to become exactly one million, so this is something I really don’t get.
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          No, it’s tricky for native English speakers too, and that’s the point. It’s a literacy test that was given to black people in Louisiana in order to justify taking away their right to vote

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          It’s intentionally ambiguous so that the officials administering it always have an excuse to fail you if they don’t like the look of you (i.e. you’re not white).

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          I had the exact same comments. The fifth one mentions drawing a circle so they do know what that is as opposed to a line around something. The first question is just nonsensical to me.

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          It’s intentionally ambiguous so that the officials administering it always have an excuse to fail you if they don’t like the look of you (i.e. you’re not white).

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        I would love to have some contemporary material discussing this, like the officials who designed it, or the campaigners trying to get rid of it

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    If you could pass an 8th grade civics class, you would know that testing for voting is peak jim-crow era BS.

    Go back and try again.

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      Difference here would be the test is applied to everyone, not only a racial monitory. Still, the idea makes me squirm.

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    This sounds like a goods idea until people start voting for certain people to get less education. Oh wait…

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    I hate people who use this rhetoric (the op) because literally every citizen over the age of 5, sometimes younger, is a tax payer. Any child that has gone to the corner store to buy candy is a tax payer.

    What they really mean is a white, land owning male.

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    Anyone who supports something like this and doesn’t make more than $200k a year shouldn’t have passed their 8th grade civics exam.

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    “Camel, lion, donkey, camera, man, woman, cheese. See I can remember five things. Easy. Aced it. Sleepy Joe wouldn’t admit to what I’ve just admitted to. Tremendous.”

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      Honest question, why does wanting a politician to know the absolute bare minimum of civics, hence being a regular society member, is akin to a socialist democracy?

      Follow up, if a civics test would be mandatory for a politician job, it should also be free to every taxpayer, period.

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        Because civics teaches you the reason for taxes and what the government is for. It will lead to people not being able to run on “taxes bad” platforms and will lead to some kind of centre left , welfare enabled government.

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    College educated voters lean Democrat and people with no college experience lean Republican. So not the winning idea Matt Walsh thinks it is. Especially considering how dumb MAGA voters are

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      I would be curious if it’s the educational component or the money component that influences people to be right or left leaning.

      Yes more people who have second education degrees lean blue, but how many of them are arts degrees and whatnot where they never got to work in their field and are wage slave baristas at Starbucks or whatever.

      Meanwhile a lot of people who never went to college went to trade school and are making bank, but most lean towards Republicans.

      There was one article I read where people tend to move from Democrat to Republican as they get older, since they eventually amass wealth and net worth and then all of a sudden have more to lose by taxes going up or other policies benefitting those with less then they have and they won’t benefit directly anymore.

      I’m sure higher education has a role to play, especially down south where even grade school public education is abysmal and most lean to the right.

      But money plays a big role too I imagine.

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    The funniest thing is that people who think you need some kind of qualification to vote also think they would be part of those qualified

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    Aren’t all US High School students required to pass a civics exam before graduation? I was.

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    A really underrated part of the right always saying this is that your average uninformed viewer leaves the interaction thinking “educated people prefer the right” when nothing could be further from the truth. If this rule was actually fairly implemented and you actually had to pass an 8th grade civics exam idk if republicans would get a single vote.