When I was 8, I remember being bored and curious and touching a lot of parents stuff… phones… wallets… legal documents…
Most parents don’t put their stuff in safes…
Like… THE WALLET IS RIGHT THERE… I COULD JUST GRAB IT!
If they had age verification stuff back then… I could’ve just… quickly snap a pic of their ID and just YOLO it…
Anyway it’s not about Age Verification, it’s about control, coercitive control. You go to an environmental manifestation and your dad get a call, that type of thing
Conspiracy brain.
Read the debate about age-verification in the places where it’s been implemented.
Most age verification providers also require video with the person’s face doing specific movements, which is then matched with the ID, so stealing an ID probably wouldn’t be enough.
Not that it’ll stop kids from trying, and sending their parent’s ID to some random sketchy company without their knowledge anyways.
Google/Youtube only requires either a selfie or an ID…
Hence why I said most.
Regardless though, you know they’re gonna up the ante as they go. The more normalized it becomes to share more data, the easier it is for them to ask everyone for it too.
Ok. AI of their dads face, doing those movements.
Change ID photo of dad’s face to yours
Could work. A lot of the time these current systems have… dubious liveness checks.
Over time they’re definitely going to get better, though, and I have a feeling that with AI watermarking being baked into a lot of the actually good models, it’s not going to be super reliable or repeatable.
Yes. None of these laws prevent children from viewing porn or whatever. It just forces them to do this or go to unregulated sides.
I remember kids in hs saying they were using VPN to bypass stuff.
As long as the platform can pretend there are no children it doesn’t need to provide safety features for them. Thats what this is about.
Adults can be exploited more freely and legally. As a bonus they are getting more personal information of having you provide proof that you are of exploitable age.
That kids will fake it will be blamed on the parents and not them.
Just like HR and legal department at any company, this isn’t to protect the customers, this is to protect the owners.
If a website requires a photo of a person ID or something like a drivers license, this is not “age verification”, it’s “identity verification”.
That leads down a whole other rabbit hole of being tracked online.
Also if something like a website or pc starts asking me to upload documents with personal identifiable information on it (that not related to banking, healthcare, or a government service, I will straight up stop using it and block at my network level.
Don’t worry. Over the coming years they will find all the loopholes and tricks and close them off one by one until we’re all securely tagged with electronic brain implants that can detect when you’re thinking about lying about your exact age.
With the brain implants, they can just see how many years worth of memories you have.
Don’t worry. They would never use the brain implants to inspect your other thoughts and memories. They are only there to protect the children.
“Mom, why did hit me?” cries
“What, no honey I didn’t hit you.” presses button on smartphone app
“You fell, remember?”
“Oh yea, I fell. I love you mom.”
Honestly I wonder if there is hidden trauma that I forgot because my mom had some brainwashing sci fi tech that deleted my memories…
The sci fi tech is built into your brain. My wife doesn’t remember anything from the 3 years or so that she was being abused.
I’m more worried about losing the memories I have right now this moment.
Like… what if future me decides to go no contact…
Then mom find a sketchy mad scientist to kidnap me then brainwash me
Then me, not having the memories of all those abusive moments, I’d go back and wanna talk to her again?
I don’t even know if I am really who I am anymore…
Are those memories of us spending time together even real? Is the memories of cuddling ever real? Was love ever real?
Why do I have this craving for her affection? Even while I’m so anxious and afraid of her?
What the fuck is happening in my brain?
Aaaaaahhhh
remembers scene in Idiocracy where they have a tattoo of a barcode on your wrist
100% this.
There’s a smart mart where I grew up that was built in the late 90s. https://www.yelp.com/biz/smartmart-memphis-2
Basically what it sounds like. A fully automated neighborhood convenience store before automation was really a common thing. Actually very similar in appearance and function to the automated Carl’s JR. in Idiocracy.
When I was in highschool my friend’s mom used to just give her ID and send her down to the smart mart to “buy my smokes.” That was 20 years ago, but I’m really not sure how tf it would be any different with this tech?
I think they even had some kind of early frt that was supposed to scan the face of the purchaser and match it to the id. Funny thing about genetics, you often share similar facial features with the person who gave birth to you.
Also, this is a bit of a tangential point, but even if you weren’t trying to “abuse” the automated system’s safety features, there were still unintentional glitches that resulted in kids being exposed to things they weren’t supposed to be exposed to. Like when I was 16, I was bored and went to smart mart one night to get a drink. Somehow ended up receiving a free pack of zigzags with my Yoohoo.
The network state tech already glitches all the fucking time. They’ve repeatedly exposed sensitive government data and put all of us at risk of identity theft while claiming to have some kind of technocratic elite status that makes them qualified to lead America and do the stupid shit they keep on doing. This age verification bullshit is just the latest very poorly disguised invasion of privacy in the name of safety, and it is so fucking obvious nothing good will come of this.
In reality, they don’t know wtf they’re doing other than gaining more control that will enable further exploitation. And it’s not even like we have a say in whether we choose to use the enshitified tech. They’re forcing it on us. Idiocracy has become mandatory reality thanks to the nanny network state full of “libertarians” who despise regulations, until it comes to regulating the private lives of citizens.
Since it’s their shitty private monopoly being shoved down our throats, still paid for with our tax dollars but not government run in the traditional sense, it can’t possibly be oppression, and we should thank these technocratic experts for steering us into the fucking ground.
And that’s not even taking into consideration how creepy and concerning it should be to anyone with two fucking brain cells, that we’re obviously enabling a network of wealthy pedophiles, (who have repeatedly proved themselves to be above justice), to have the ability to just create a database of children across the U.S. that they will then be able to track and locate every time they use a device or walk past a surveillance camera with live FRT. What a fucking nightmare.
I’d just buy my child a VPN to avoid this shit.
“Well, Mr. Smith… I see here that your son used your ID to access illicit materials on the internet. Did you not think to secure it? You realize you’re criminally liable for allowing a minor to access inappropriate material? And I see you were at the government protest last week… such a poor role model you are, Mr. Smith…”
It’s going to create a cottage industry of virtual humans. They completely exist on paper, but not in real life.
Sounds like a great result - it will add so much garbage data to the pile.
Sounds like Shawshank Redemption.
Then the republicans will use those fake humans to vote for them, while accusing the democrats of doing just that.
Meanwhile the democrats aren’t doing that, because they don’t understand technology enough to even try. But they’ll still regulate industries they don’t understand.
And republicans will still use all of this to their advantage and push for Orwellian policies.
This is what they are OK with. As long as responsibility is out of their hands in any legal sense instead of actual solutions that don’t undermine privacy. They are OK with it.
It’s not even this. It never had anything to do with responsibility, or child safety, etc. It has everything to do with tracking users which makes collected information more valuable to data brokers. Secondly, it let’s them justify advertisement fees in the age where where some traffic is from AI agents.
reminder that South korea has been doing this shit with KSSN for games. anybody thinking IDs would stip kids is kidding themselves.
excuse me i have a little class i’m using norman reedus and death stranding
I have been saying this for about a decade now
The only thing requiring government IDs online will accomplish is the creation of a market for immaculate fake IDs. That market will be fully satisfied.
