A drug infamously touted by Donald Trump has been linked to nearly 17,000 Covid deaths in a new scientific study.

Researchers say that the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine was prescribed to patients during the first wave of Covid-19 “despite the absence of evidence documenting its clinical benefits.”

The French study estimated that 16,990 patients in the US, France, Belgium, Italy, Spain and Turkey may have died as a result of the drug.

The study has been published in the February issue of Biomedicine & Pharmacotherapy.

Researchers say the data used comes from a study published in the Nature scientific journal, which reported that there was an 11 per cent increase in mortality rate linked to the drug’s prescription.

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      To be fair, the 17000 were not even all Americans. 16,990 patients in the US, France, Belgium, Italy, Spain and Turkey. I too dislike Trump but the world is larger than the US

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        We would need to see the breakdown. If it’s 14000 in the US and 3k elsewhere then that’s telling but i don’t see that information listed anywhere.

        Edit: Found it!. It’s about 13K in the US.

        Overall, using median estimates of HCQ use in each country, we estimated that 16,990 HCQ-related in-hospital deaths (range 6267–19256) occurred in the countries with available data. The median number of HCQ-related deaths in Belgium, Turkey, France, Italy, Spain, and the USA was 240 (range not estimable), 95 (range 92–128), 199 (range not estimable), 1822 (range 1170–2063), 1895 (range 1475–2094) and 12739 (3244− 15570), respectively.

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      Would’ve been hilarious if that matched the exact number of votes he lost Georgia by or something like that.

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      Unfortunately, a lot of patients didn’t actually have many options and were prescribed it without asking. In the early days of the pandemic, doctors were basically just throwing everything they could at it, to see what worked. If you got a conservative doctor, there was a good chance that you’d be prescribed it without ever asking for it.

      Because all the doctors were flying blind, but hey the news says this drug works so we might as well try it. They’re probably going to die without treatment anyways, so worst case scenario the result is the same as if they weren’t taking it. Nowhere to go but up, right? A lot of patients basically didn’t have a say, because they were hospitalized.

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        No doctor will just randomly prescribe medications to a patient with a relatively unknown disease just “to see what sticks” because that’s not how that works, that’s now anything works.

        Medicine have side effects, especially on people that are already sick. Also, a lot of medicine knowingly won’t do shit because they do things not related to visursses. Viruses specifically are VERY hard to treat. Bacteria have antibiotics, because of how bacteria work. Visursses in general basically only have vaccination, basics they only have “prevent it” and “your own body will kill it” hydrochoroquine (or however you spell it) was kever going to cute anyone from covid, it has severe side effects, but trump needed some miracle to cure this to become the president that fixed covid, so he just threw this in, the retard.

        Trump should be jailed for mass murder, at this point, for his actions

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      50% of people are below average intelligence. This is by the definition of averages. Republicans don’t have a monopoly on stupid. They do seem to have a vocal majority of them though.

      The waste from this, the people who died needlessly from not getting vaccinated, from drinking bleach, it’s sickening. That sentiment would likely not be shared should the situation be reversed.

      That’s 17,000 people who will not be voting in 2024.

      More than Trump needed to flip Georgia.

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    17000 deaths… Within a limited set of countries, so the entire amount world wide will be much, MUCH higher.

    Trump is the direct cause that covid got that big in the US, he directly recommended shit like this medication, hell he recommended injecting bleach.

    Trump is DIRECTLY responsible for the deaths of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of men, women and children.

    But hey, let’s make him president again!

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      hell he recommended injecting bleach

      Okay…first and foremost: Trump is a fascist moron, an absolute danger to everyone, and can go fuck himself. However, he did not recommend injecting bleach. He VERY STUPIDLY asked his task force if it was something we could do.

      Source: https://youtu.be/zicGxU5MfwE?t=35

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        Even so, the “one minute” disinfectant was actually alcohol, not bleach. It was an interesting presentation very early in the process when we didn’t know much.

        But leave it up to the media to turn that into “injecting bleach.” Repeat a lie enough, people will believe it.

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          It was as interesting as observing that a handgun kills cancer cells, and have we tried that? It was never not incredibly dumb.

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      Which you could argue is also a large component of the inflation we’ve had. We wouldn’t have had to massively stimulate the economy if there wasn’t a pandemic. But it was all Biden, charging you more for eggs, right?

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    Even if 10% of those people took it because he told them to, that’s 1700 deaths on his head.

    I haven’t even killed one person.

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    Unfortunately, the people who need to know the results of this study don’t believe in studies.

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    Wait… they got prescriptions for it?

    Where are the malpractice suits? Where are the licensing authorities?

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      Who would sue the pharmacists? The state probably don’t want anything to do with that and the victims are dead. They probably only have relatives that don’t want or haven’t talked to them in years.

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    A lot of people in here acting like the patient was the one that got to decide what kind of drugs they were getting. I had covid very very early on, and I was hospitalized. They had me on hydroxychloroquine. The doctors and nurses didn’t know what the fuck was going on, they were trying everything they could hoping that something would work. I was basically a test subject because it was so early on. It looks like it didn’t kill me, which is great, but at no point did I ask to be put on it.

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      Yeah but the subsequent private purchases of the drug well after it was established to not work is what the issue is.

      If you got covid in that first year you were getting treated with the kitchen sink. Your Healthcare decided the drug was worth the risk and you got it. Not every hospital was doing that, hell I hadn’t even heard of one using it until your comment…

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      To the tune of Gaston –

      "No one kills off their base,

      let leopards eat their face,

      leave thousands of bodies all over the place…"

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      The base kills itself off pretty well. They would contest this assertion with as much vigor as they can muster!

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    What’s the word we use for a group of people who follow their chosen leader no matter how ridiculous? I can’t remember…

    Didn’t some people drink a bunch of poison koolaid once?

    /s

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    Meanwhile, my local Walmart is fully stocked on horse paste. We were in the pet care section yesterday. A bunch of boxes of apple-flavored ivermectin. And I’m guessing they didn’t have that many because people go to Walmart for horse care supplies.

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    Let’s be real. This dude was doing us a favor by doing this. Anyone dumb enough to listen to him fucking deserves it.

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      I don’t know that they deserve it, but as a society, we certainly don’t have the resources to fix MAGA. That level of deprogramming and educating is WAY past our infrastructure and resources.

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          When it’s self-selected death by hateful people who dehumanize others I don’t have a problem with it.

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            Ironically you’re dehumanizing others by painting them all with a broad stroke. Some people get duped for reasons other than hatred. Do you think the ignorant or the outright stupid deserve to die?

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              The willful ignorant who were given plenty of notice and free access and chose otherwise? Specifically the arrogant people like that? They deserve the consequences of their choices, yes.

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      Personally I liked his stint as a bean salesman while in the white house, just casually sitting at the resolute desk hocking beans…just president stuff NBD.

      the orange idiot selling beans from the oval

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      It’s bc he thought it would affect the cities (where dems live) way more, which of course he had zero issues with because he has only child feelings. By the time his version of thinking was vaguely able to realize that unvaxxed people (his cultists) died way more even in rural areas, his stupid smelly broken brain wouldn’t allow him to think he was wrong about something. So he started throwing random words (like hydroxychloroquin) at the wall in hopes that something would work, and even though it didn’t he couldn’t go back on anything he’d ever vomited out of his piehole.

      Basically maintaining his false image of himself as someone literally incapable of error is way more important for him than anything else, otherwise he’d have to confront a lifetime of failure. That’d be a monumental task for even the most resilient people, let alone one of the weakest and most pathetic cowards ever to have lived.