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      Fuck that narrative. This guy is just a psychopath who was inconvenienced, not overwhelmed because of caring for his wife.

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          So when someone wants to end the suffering

          You’re not referring to her, right? Cause she didn’t want to die. She told him that when he first tried to kill her.

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              Nah, usually the “wants to end the suffering” is referring to a suffering person dying or being killed, especially when an extremely sick person died in the event being described. Sometimes it’s used to reference just drugging yourself up beyond safe limits to remove chronic pain, generally also a very sick person. It’s pretty much never used to refer to killing someone else to free yourself from debilitating financial obligations. This isn’t an American thing, this is a poor word choice thing.

              He is evil. He may have been suffering as well due to the evil system we live in and wouldn’t be in a humane system, but he could have just walked away or declared bankruptcy or divorced her or killed himself. All of those things are still harmful to her, but they’re better than being murdered. Whatever his hurts were, she didn’t deserve that. A bad circumstance doesn’t mean you can murder an innocent person you vowed to love and support and not be a bad person.

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              Having lived in America for all my life, what I can say is that most Americans are way more reasonable, kind, logical, and empathetic than you. But that’s really faint praise. You probably hate Americans so much because you see yourself in them so much.

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          This isn’t limited to Americans or the US. The reason you are describing this in such tone is American exceptionalism, though, because I can just feel the indignation at this happening in the country you subconsciously expect to be exceptional.

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              As certain kind of people say when talking about weapons, “that’s why we don’t have free healthcare, bitch”.

              In other words, those western democracies have huge taxes and small militaries.

              (I personally think that with some reduction of MIC-related corruption USA could have both good social nets and defense, but that’s the reality.)

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                We’ll ignore the fact that America pays as much per capita towards Medicare and MedicAid as Canada pays for its admittedly flawed universal healthcare and instead focus on the question. You think it’s better to spend more than the next 5(I think) countries on the military but also disagree with raising taxes even an iota to improve Healthcare coverage?

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          Fuck that.

          Most of us aren’t trying to kill our spouses because it gets too hard.

          Evil people may face systemic issues like the rest of us, but that doesn’t mean we excuse their behavior.

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                In a situation where she is incurable ill and suffering and asks me to kill her.

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                My wife and I have discussed a few. For her, anything that’s terminal or results in such a significant decrease in quality of life that continued living is some degree of torture more than 50% of the time.

                My criteria are mostly the same, with added conditions for dementia, which seems to run in the family.

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                  Lol I’m an atheist, I just dom’t feel the need to murder my wife.

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        Capitalism isn’t exploitative, it’s just an inconvenience? Oh, well that solves everything!

        Wait, no, that’s actually incomprehensibly moronic. F*** your defense of such an evil and exploitative system.

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          Sure, let’s blame everybody but the guy who murdered his wife for his wife being dead…

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            Ummm, if you want??? I mean, no else said anything remotely close to that, but you do you.

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        I’m seriously ill. Nowhere near as ill as his wife was, but ill enough to not be working and to have gone to the Mayo Clinic. I’m fully aware of what a huge, overwhelming burden I’ve been to my family in terms of both finances and emotional toll.

        Do I condone what this person did? Absolutely not. But dealing with a seriously ill person is a hell of a lot more than an inconvenience. I do everything I can to make my wife and daughter’s lives as easy as possible despite my issues, but I can only do so much. There have been a lot of very difficult moments for all of us.

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    This is one of the possible results when medicine and hospital care is run but cutthroat corporations. All healthcare should be required, by law, to be non profit.

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        Profit can always be distorted based on how much you’re paying your employees.

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          I ran the books for a law firm for I don’t know how many years. They had a profit larger than $500 one year, and that was by choice. We put all the profits in salaries every year. For smaller businesses it’s pretty easy. Larger companies it’s harder but doable, you just have to be right on top of your bookkeeping.

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            There’s no issue with this because it gets taxed either way… all of the employees pay tax on the additional income probably at about the same rate as the company would have.

            For a hospital on the other hand, they’re just increasing costs of Healthcare.

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      I work for a nonprofit Healthcare system, unfortunately the companies we buy our materials from are definitely for profit, as are the insurance companies that do their damnest to not spend their money.

      It’s a rotton system.

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      Ya but at least the rich people get to float around on their yachts right???

      😭

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        Someone recently memed a twitter post that said, “The Have-Nots and the Have-Yachts.”

        These right-wing assholes bitch and bemoan injustice and the working man and elite, but ignore how fucked it is we have rising childhood homelessness let alone poverty… But hey at least wealthy shitheads own multiple mansions, yachts, and private planes amirite. The King of Jordan owns at least 2 beach front Malibu mansions; Saudi Arabia, Russia, Japan, China own vast swaths of American land… And there’s not a peep over that; just blame the poor mother and child fleeing crime and poverty in South/Central America for geopolitical disasters WE largely caused or ignored in the first place.

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      If it makes you feel any better

      Canada is trying to adopt your system because public health care is so much worse. Only ~35% oppose private healthcare

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    How is this not first degree murder? He admitted to trying to kill her before and depression is not a defence for murder.

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      I guess they don’t think it would stick. In Missouri, murder in the first degree is “if he or she knowingly causes the death of another person after deliberation upon the matter”. The defense would probably argue that in this instance, he did not deliberate, but took advantage of a brief opportunity.

      I don’t know how true that is, but it seems like a likely argument.

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        Except he admitted to having deliberated on it and tried it before, he had also planned it on a third occasion. This could not have been more premeditated.

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      Yeah, this doesn’t feel like it could be more premeditated. He tried it multiple times.

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    Have they done any investigation into the cause of her illness? I have no sympathy for this man. If anything, I would be questioning the cause of her illness after hearing that he attempted to kill her multiple times. There are a lot of toxins that can damage a person’s kidneys. I didn’t trust eating my husband’s cooking after he announced that he would rather have a mail order bride from Eastern Europe, or Russia, instead of me. I guess only the blood bank would know if he ever did anything to me. That one time I was seriously ill, vomiting, with diarrhea, and it only lasted one day, I had to question his motive for demanding to make dinner the night before that.

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        Just FYI, this person is likely suffering from schizophrenia. Not just because of this comment, but dozens of comments about the many, many people that have tried to kill them in a variety of ways, some nonsensical, since their childhood, not to mention their “law enforcement ex boyfriend that causes planes to fly low over their home”.

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            Huh. That’s interesting —

            I’ve heard that severely schizophrenic people don’t know they are schizophrenic.
            It’s not fair or right to characterize LLMs with human medical issues. (Not for humans, that is.) But similar to humans in that situation, LLM’s don’t “know” they are speaking nonsense.

            Wonder if it would be possible to have clusters of LLMs that “talk to” each other to establish baselines.

            (Sorry, I just say whatever pops into my head. I know this comment isn’t contextually relevant.)

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          I remember you, I saw your post a few days ago. I am sorry for your situation. I hope you ended up filing the police report over the stolen car. It sounds like his friends did murder him. Hopefully if so you can get finality.

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              You have a hard road. My aunt had a parallel type of situation. Her husband became an FBI fugitive for some very bad decisions. Not a bad man, just very poor judgement. She had to declare him missing.

              I wish you some kind of swift resolution. Please know this: it is hard, but manageable. Others have made similar journeys. Get help as you can and find your own strength. You can get through this to find peace again.

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                  If I can offer something…

                  Those are not your embarrassment. My father confessed to his other daughter only as he was dying. She was 30 at the time - I was over 40. He had hidden her from us for all that time, disguising all of his time with her as business meetings.

                  Before he died, my mom got to hold HIS first grandchild while she still had none. She held my stepsister blameless - all she had done was be born. And my mom cried at my father’s wake - they had a lot of years together, and some were good. But we’ve all moved on. It’s been 20 years since he died.

                  My advice is to let the past stay in the past. It was, and reliving it won’t make it different. Be in the now and work towards your better future. I truly wish you peace on your journey. We all find it in the end.