The poll shows that public views of Musk are increasingly polarized, with Republican support of the billionaire rising while Democratic support falls.
Elon Musk’s support among Democrats has withered to a new low as he has embraced Republican politics, according to a national NBC News poll.
Only 6% of Democrats in the poll, which was conducted Sept. 13-17, said they had positive feelings about Musk, while 79% said they had negative feelings. The numbers were flipped for Republicans, with 62% having positive feelings toward him and 14% negative feelings. Independents were split, 31% to 36%.
The poll shows that views of Musk are increasingly polarized, reflecting the transformation of his public image in recent years from that of an environmentally aware automaker crusading against fossil fuels to that of a conservative activist aligned with former President Donald Trump.
Why in God’s good name would I care about Elon Muskrat’s popularity among Democrats?
YOU might not. But I’m sure the politicians and bureaucrats who determine whether Musk’s businesses continue getting billions in taxpayer funded subsidies would sure like to know if the public is behind continuing to do that. I for one would consider it a bonus if say, the Democrats won control in November, looked at the numbers and decided none of their supporters are behind Musk, determined he’s been playing fast and loose using taxpayer dollars to fund pushing his own political agenda, and turned off the free ride.
Since when do his enablers in government give one single flying fuck what the People think?
They don’t. But if they already have it in for someone, which the Democrats in Congress almost certainly do right now, public opinion can give them a cover to act.
It’s certainly not for our benefit, but if one group of shitlords wants to take another shitlord down a few pegs, I’m certainly going to enjoy the show.
I can dig it
Thats fine, I’m sure Republicans will start buying EVs any day now
The next tesla model will have a coal oven inside it. Will still run on electricity, the oven is just in there so you can do some pollution too. The main factor in making the electric part palpable to republicans will be telling them how brown people are being exploited to get the materials for the batteries out of the ground.
Nah, it will be worse. Tesla will start selling a hybrid model with a generator onboard that can charge the battery as you go. That generator will be designed to be fueled by ground-up burning tires, unrecycleable plastic, and human hair. .
Gotta be able to compete in the rolling coal market
Sadly I know someone who just bought a tesla model 3.
I’m fine with this, fuck it, if it takes a pos like Elon to make republicans to buy EV , I’m fine it, the silver lining is that at least both sides will buy electric.
The fuck is wrong with that 6%?
They are stock holders, left holding the bag.
Probably normie centrists that believe in the myth of a free market economy and supports social safety nets but abhors anyone who uses them.
They bought a Tesla and now feel like they have to defend their decision
Why was there even a poll for this?
The poll is 26 pages long
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25171447-240405-nbc-september-2024-poll_922-release
It’s just a few triangulated facts derived from the overall results. This is how almost all polling works.
They’re probably mostly part of the ~8% of Democrats who lean conservative according to Pew’s political typology.
6% is waaay too high
Concerning!
“I, a genius, will alienate the group who want EVs to curry favor with the group who will never buy EVs. Genius, I say.”
He has to satisfy the guys they fronted him the billions he needed to buy and destroy Twitter.
The fact that MBS gave Elon $22B in order to buy Twitter gets swept under the rug in literally every discussion. If the narrative was true, that Elon was forced to buy Twitter because he didn’t know when to stop running his mouth, why would MBS be cool with throwing $22B at a thing without any hope of seeing an ROI?
The ROI is the destruction of a social media platform that enabled global protest and solidarity movements toward equality and equity of the lower and middle classes against our global elite; anti hijab movements, women’s equal rights in Muslim countries, black lives matters in western countries, the revolution in France over the retirement age, to name a few.
Edit: and let’s not forget the impact this has had on growing conservative movements, increased foreign interference in US politics, and the weakening of western democracy.
He’s just seeing what Trump and the GOP are planning for the US and hopes he’ll be one of the oligarchs at the top in the end.
Maybe he’s playing 5D chess and is secretly making Conservatives want EVs.
He’s not, though.
He’s not a good 2D chess player unfortunately.
Maybe 1D?
It’s a strong play if the idea was to take money from oil companies, come into a car company after it was already established, apply his brash personality as the defacto brand of the business, and then crater the sales of that company while the Fed applies 100% tariffs to Chinese EVs, essentially destroying the EV market for anyone who makes under 100k a year.
Who. Fucking. Cares.
(Not directed at OP, just the idea of the survey in general. Who needed to know this information? Why do they think the public needs to know how popular a random rich guy it’s.)
he’s not a random rich guy and claiming that is either disingenuous or irresponsible. though i get the frustration, just because he’s a demonic troglodyte you wish you never heard about anymore doesn’t mean you get to ignore his existence. then they get to do whatever they want.
pushback, scrutiny and ridicule are the only tools we have against massively influential cunts. and because they’re massively influential, their popularity matters.
There’s also the fact that if people hate him enough and realise how genuinely stupid the guy is, they’ll start wondering if the economic system that allowed him to amass the wealth of a country as millions starve might be doing it wrong.
even before that, if enough people hate him, his personal brand would become toxic and his influence would hopefully shrink.
Someone may want to know if you are a Democrat or Republican (for advertising, for gerrymandering, whatever). That person may not be able to ask you a direct question like that though (or may feel that you may lie about the answer to such a question anyway).
As such, they likely carry out occasional surveys asking people who are Democrat or Republicans for their opinions on something else. Once they find something else that can strongly correlate your political affiliation with a specific opinion, they know of a new question they can ask someone. That new question should generally reveal what your political party is most likely and they can then proceed with that “most likely” answer.
So “who cares” is those who cannot directly ask you something. They will ask you something else and use that answer to deduce the information they cannot obtain directly.
As I understand this “question by proxy” can be even more effective because people are less likely to lie about Musk than about their political views
Makes much more sense. Thank you.
Money is power. Rich people are more powerful than politics. We should care much more about them than we do now. Musk is dangerous. He’s also visible and that’s a good thing. The quiet invisible ones are even more dangerous.
Considering how politically active he is, he might become a politician (even running for president?). A lot of people will care about this if suddenly Elon musk appears in American ballots.
EDIT: I just remembered that Elon cannot run for USA president. But idk if other political positions are open.
And seeing how trump can break every law, I don’t see what would prevent Elon from running for president.
Become president/buy a president. Same diff.
would prevent Elon from running for president.
Not native-born though
With our current SCOTUS all he has to do is sue then ride it up to SCOTUS and have em declare it unconstitutional to have requirements for office.
That’s kind of a paradox - we can’t stop reporting actions of assholes like him because they do things borderline dangerous to society, but that exact reporting gives them the popularity to do all that
Pretty much every media outlet across the world.
The opposing party in the UK is electing leaders, and they’ve all been asked what they think of him. Like it or not, but in turning one of the biggest multi-billion dollar social media platforms into a small million dollar right-wing platform for crypto bots, he’s now got a lot of influence on politics across the world.
What makes it funnier is that he probably doesn’t give a fuck about the Tories in the UK, but if Trump loses he’ll own a right-wing platform with zero influence on what he cares about.
It’s not for us, it is for him.
He really cares how popular he is, that is why he is buying all these popular businesses to pretend he founded them.
A survey conducted means someone paid for it. I’m having a hard time believing anyone but Elon himself being willing to pay for this survey.
Maybe someone on the board at Tesla demanded it when they gave him the money to prove he wasn’t worth investing in. 🤷
Poll of whom, you ask?
Interviews: 1,000 Registered Voters, including 870 respondents interviewed via cellphone. Date: September 13-17, 2024
They obviously don’t poll those of us who don’t answer calls from numbers we don’t recognize.
And don’t return sketchy voicemails. We Olde learned this in the days of “Caller ID” as an extra paid service.
So you’re saying those numbers could be lower? Lower indeed. Maybe into the negative.
the numbers are cartoonish.
We cannot explain why it’s this high
Sure we can. Given the choice, a small percentage of people in a poll will always pick the worst answer. Is Hitler still alive, living in Argentina, and I want to give him a real nice blow job? 5% say yes, yes, and yes.
So you’re saying it’s in the margin of error? Lol
Still too high.
Really good way to sell electric cars. Good job Elon.
Fuck Elon
Fuck Tesla
Fuck Xitter
Fuck Spa Sex
Fuck Starlink
Did I miss anyone? Oh yes, and Fuck Elon.
Neuralink.
Fuck that shit, too.
(Especially when you learn about thiel and the other tech Bros plans to harvest humans for biofuel by keeping them alive and hooked up in a virtual world. As a more “humane alternative to genocide”)
https://newrepublic.com/article/183971/jd-vance-weird-terrifying-techno-authoritarian-ideas
Why do these people keep looking at the Matrix as a manual instead of a warning?
One of my super tinfoil theories is that all mainstream science/speculative fiction is a psyop not meant to warn, but to desensitise us to the dystopia.
Obviously, that would just seem crazy…
On an unrelated note:
I was about to post a snarky reply about Star Trek as the exception, and then realized their bioconservatives won the “Eugenics Wars”.
Qanon is all about the galactic federation, if you didn’t already know.
See upper right:
It’s a little confusing because the image is cropped.
Sorry, yeah, it would make more sense if you could see the yeti, samsquanch, Elvis overlord section.
Behind the Bastards recently did a two-parter on Yarvin with Ed Helms as a guest. It’s depressing but good, as per usual.
Fuck Spa Sex
What did spa sex ever do to you tho?
Got a UTI ☹️. 🔥🥒
No sex nor spa.
The Boring Company, fuck them, too.
I’m guessing there’s some story with spa sex? “Elon Spa Sex” isn’t a search term I’m willing to enter.
I sure fucking hope it’s not 94% for Republicans.
Probably higher.
Big if true!
I can only see ‘being a billionaire’ as ‘stealing from the population at large’. So you’re saying the biggest thief of society is still popular among 6% of democrats.
