Luigi is not a hero. He is an alleged hero.
Whether or not he’s the hero he’s been accused of being, he’s certainly a living martyr now
The thought police are throwing cinder blocks at us.
Glad people are starting to realize this is how the ruling class wanted to take away our freedom of speech.
Their goal was to get us all on their company platforms where the only discussions that are allowed are the ones the ruling class deems appropriate.
I mean… that’s how they make their money, so… yeah?:-)
LOL Tiktok sent me a message for posting “Incarcerate Mango Mussolini” as a violation of it’s community guidelines so it seems like it’s happening everywhere.
Fuck you tiktok, you can’t stop me.
EDIT: Formating
I admit I’m not up to date on the leaning of various social media, but I had thought Tiktok, being Chinese-owned, might approve of more anti-Trump sentiment. Maybe they were more attuned to the “Incarcerate” portion.
Duck censorship.
I have just left Reddit and deleted my account, on account of this.
Fuck Reddit.
I read the article and I couldn’t believe how much of an effort they’re making to silence people. This is the world we live in. It’s so sad.
Congrats on dropping your balls to become a man
I am literally here, now, commenting on this because I am reading the article to this on reddit and … I can’t believe they are going to start punishing upvotes! That is the final stray for Reddit. Its dead. Gone the way of Digg. I am literally here now to start moving over to Lemmy.
I just realized - and must keep in mind, with a federated platform like lemmy, all of your upvotes and downvotes are broadcasted across the network. ANYONE could track your upvotes and downvotes in THIS system.
I had no idea how much I valued voting privacy.
Here is an example of an instance admin abusing the privilege of being able to see who voted for what content. OTOH, this incident was noted, and people started abandoning whole entire communities there and moving them elsewhere.
THIS is the freedom that the Fediverse offers: not that you can do whatever you want, but that you don’t have to remain beholden to anyone else (like spez), and instead can move elsewhere at any time, while still accessing the entirety of the Fediverse (unlike Reddit which gates it behind their API limiters, for the sake of profit).
You don’t have voting privacy here on Lemmy though, and theoretically instance admins could “punish” you based on voting patterns.
But decentralization helps that
If an instance becomes oppressive, nothing is stopping you from going to a new one. You can’t do that with Reddit. Let’s say my instance Lemmy.ca becomes awful, I can make a new account on another and still comment on this community. That’s the beauty of the Fediverse.
On the other hand, harvesting that sort of data is as simple as creating an instance and Federating with whatever sub you want to spy on
whatever sub you want to spy on
Is it really considered spying if the sub is pretty much shouting the information freely to whoever wants to request it?
I have intercepted this communication to say yes, it’s still spying! 🕵️
If I post to a public website in a plaintext protocol and my ISP also intercepts+logs that transmission, is it spying since the post was public anyhow?
I mean any organization that’s a risk to use my data maliciously is one that can afford buying it, so I actually prefer this to my data being equally easy to access but reddit gets paid for it.
My comment isn’t too say that Reddit is good, but rather that we might be able to do things on Lemmy a bit better for user safety/privacy. Aggregating upvotes to an origin seems good to me
But then they would be easier to spoof and thereby enact vote manipulation.
PieFed was doing some experiments along those lines. Personally I don’t like the idea of fully anonymous voting and would rather go the other way and make them fully public - that would give people pause before doing things like downvoting every single reply to a post or every post in a community, or following people around and downvoting everything that they do.
Voting ideally would be a 2-way proposition where someone can offer their opinion, and the recipient should have the ability to choose whether to receive it or not - i.e. be able to block someone who is abusive, or whole entire instances where that is exceedingly common (cough Hexbear cough, and their very common alts on Lemmy.ml).
I hate to say it, but if you’re that concerned I wouldn’t up or downvote anything.
They already do, some instances or communities will ban you for downvoting everything.
Which is kinda fair, why are you here if everything displeases you?
You are not allowed to even nod at a reddit article anymore. The voting system on lemmy is broken though. Your votes shouldn’t follow you.
shouldn’t follow you
Do you mean… across communities? PieFed has a community-specific metric iirc, or else it was coming soon, but Lemmy has nothing even close to this.
PieFed also has anonymous voting, but I am personally against that, as it seems too easy to abuse. I’d rather go the other way and make everything fully public. If you want to offer someone a criticism, then why not attach your username to that message being sent? Doing that would make for a much more civil environment IMHO.
There are upsides and downsides to everything. Open votes means it’s harder to manufacture consent. That’s something someone on Reddit could do, where they bot vote their own content to the top of the feed and nobody would be none the wiser because you don’t know how and when someone voted. And it’s not really a “could do”, it’s something that (at least a few years ago) happened regularly.
But on Lemmy voting is open so if someone starts up a bot farm to push their content to the top it is (relatively) easy to discover.
Banning for mentioning Luigi is just absurd. Up voting has been a thing for a while , they just extended what it violated. Before this, up voting excessively or so soon after account creation flags you as a bot
What’s Digg?
Digg was a news and comment aggregation site before Reddit existed. It was pretty fantastic for its time. Reddit is like Digg on steroids.
Funny enough, Digg is making a comeback
news@lemmy.ml restricts saying anything even vaguely anti-russian in a time when Russia is effectively trying destroy the west. At the same time, they’re allowing rather blatant anti-west sentiment. And I’m not saying that that’s fundamentally bad, but rather that there is no such thing as unbiased.
Reddit sure sucks and needs to die though. But their bias of not supporting murder is somewhat understandable.
News@lemmy.world blocks Luigi posting https://lemmy.world/comment/15689396
But their bias of not supporting murder is somewhat understandable.
Its not murder, it’s self defense. A mass murderer was stopped by Luigi, end of story.
The government has accused Luigi of stopping a mass murderer.
And somehow they’ve spun that as terrorism.
I saw the Hammer and Sickle on lemmy.ml and that was enough for me to know that they were probably Campists and Stalinists lol.
I guess it’s good Lemmy has the different instances(?) even tho it’s a bit annoying.
The beauty is that you can just block the annoying instances. I’ve blocked lemmy.ml so I don’t see their communities, but can still see their users commenting on posts.
Not all of us are happy with it. The Pro-Russia, pro-China posts are enough to make me raise an eyebrow and keep my mouth shut when a mod comes around.
But… it’s genuinely one of the better moderated instances. It is quite peaceful compared to other communities. I dont see lemmygrad, I dont see beehaw, it’s just, restful
The Pro-Russia, pro-China posts are enough to make me raise an eyebrow and keep my mouth shut when a mod comes around.
Just following orders so you can get content?
Bite the hand that feeds you
I dont see lemmygrad
The default view is subscribed, unless you’re browsing all you won’t see them unless you already subscribed.
The Pro-Russia, pro-China posts are enough to make me raise an eyebrow and keep my mouth shut when a mod comes around.
I can appreciate this, people can be on a hair trigger sometimes. Personally I like to be able to keep track of what both sides narratives are.
That’s why I like my instance, the admins are great and we have the same mindset of federation: let the users decide who they want to block and only defederate from a instance if they’re hugely problematic or doing something illegal.
I think lemmy.ml is federated with lemmygrad right? I never see their stuff either, it’s probably such a small instance that it kinda gets lost from the activity of the bigger and more popular communities.
Yeah on second glance, it is federated with lemmygrad, but I somehow don’t see the posts from there. Apparently, I’ve only blocked one sub from there “GenZedong”, but that seems to be enough for me to not see any of their stuff at a ll.
I am currently slowly migrating towards another instance, but I genuinely do feel comfortable on lemmy.ml
You are not the first person I’ve heard this from. Ironically the people who avoid anything even resembling a political topic can have quite the calm experience there, in the other communities.
However, it’s still supporting that behavior, and there’s also the “first they came for” mantra, which suggests that even though they haven’t banned you from the entire instance yet, it may still lead to a shocking surprise when they eat your face off later rather than sooner.
But yes there are many other instances to choose from:-). Like feddit.org for a location-based instance for someone in Europe, or Discuss.Online for someone based in the USA, or themed instances such as programming.dev or literature.cafe, etc.
Not sure what to expect with the “eating my face off” part, but I can always just migrate away
How idiotic to stay there get on an instance that does not have such a bias with the moderation.
I have accounts on other instances, but lemmy.ml is genuinely quite peaceful. I find myself always coming back to it.
There’s a distinct lack of general abuse there, and people seem to restrain themselves from needless insults
Yes but its better that if people who are easily misled find .ml they don’t just see a bunch of propaganda with noone arguing about it. It makes it look more normal. The best thing is to constantly call them idiots and accuse them of solvent abuse. That way when gullible idiots come across it they know it’s stupid. A lot of people need to be told.
Great thing about Lemmy is that I can block all instances from lemmy.ml.
How do I block .ml results?
Are there other servers which amplify problematic content?
Welcome to a tutorial on how to block .ml on your personal account.
In the top right corner of the top of the page, there are 3 horizontal white bars. Click it.
This will open up a drop down menu. At the bottom of that menu, you will see your username. Click it.
This will open another drop down menu with 3 options. Click “Settings”.
At the top of your screen you will see 2 tabs. Click the one that says “Blocks”.
Here you will see “Block user” “Block community” and “Block instance”. Click the down arrow below “Block instance”.
This will open up a search bar. Type “lemmy.ml” and click it after it shows up.
That’s it! You’ve blocked .ml and will never see content from the instance. Now you don’t need to make a feud post every day complaining about .ml and other instances you disapprove of. Think of all the time you will save!
But wait, we aren’t done yet in this menu. Click the down arrow under “Block user”. Now type “UltraGiGaGigantic” Make sure you select my .ml account as the other ones I no longer use. Thanks, appreciate it.
So the Tankie Triad is:
- lemmy.ml
- hexbear
- lemmygrad.ml
Edit:
The trouble is that, as far as I know, there’s currently no way as a user to block an entire instance. You can play whack-a-/C and block communities as you bump into them. The other option is to look for instances that have de-federated from these instances, and make a new account on one of those instances.As @Samskara@sh.itjust.works pointed out, instance blocking is possible:
You can block instances in your settings. For your instance, that’s lemmy.ca/settings then selects blocks and add the instances you want to block
Are there other servers which amplify problematic content?
There’s a lot more than the 3 listed above, the ones I listed are militant in their belief that Russia and China are Marxist-Leninist utopias. There’s some communities and users across all the instances that are problematic. If you see something you don’t like, block the user or community.
I’m seeing a lot of people call Hexbear a tankie instance lately - they aren’t really though, they are an instance full of trolls who are militant against any belief system at all (most especially their own?), or as near to that as makes no difference. They constantly lie - most especially to one another, and have even been caught lying to other instance admins.
I would lump Hexbear in under a name like The Big Three (to block), but I just thought I’d point out that many people are going to argue at its being called specifically a “tankie” one. And ofc it’s more than just these three - e.g. Midwest.social has been caught in numerous scandals as well, though unlike the Big Three, the actual users there are perfectly fine, so I don’t advocate for blocking it, just avoiding the communities there.
Speaking of, the Lemmy “instance blocking” would have been much better named as a “community mute”, since it allows you to see the users from that instance, and they can vote on and reply to your content, triggering notifications, etc. The only real way to do an actual instance block is to move to an instance that has defederated from it (requires admin rights), or use PieFed that can implement a true user block from any instance you ask for (no admin approval necessary), or the Lemmy apps Sync and Connect can likewise do that.
I’m seeing a lot of people call Hexbear a tankie instance lately - they aren’t really though, they are an instance full of trolls who are militant against any belief system at all (most especially their own?), or as near to that as makes no difference. They constantly lie - most especially to one another,
From my experience they’re anarchists/communists like they say they are.
From my experience and the majority of Lemmy’s, they’re tankies.
The only people I really seeing anarchists/communists are places like db0.
My experience is that most people cant tell the difference between anyone on the the left. If they’re type concerned about ‘tankies’ they will call anyone to the left of Biden on wars a ‘tankie’
There’s a lot more than the 3 listed above, the ones I listed are militant in their belief that Russia and China are Marxist-Leninist utopias.
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Hexbear hates Russia. They call Putin a fascist dictator / capitalist all the time.
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No one on Hexbear calls Russia or China a Marxist utopia. Pointing out that the CCP is using their power to build highspeed rail, nuclear energy, tons of public housing, and huge solar projects might seem like glazing, but I think those projects are worthy of praise. If the US built 40000km of highspeed rail, entire cities of public housing, tons of clean nuclear power plants, etc then I would be overjoyed to praise my country for doing something good.
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Supporting genocide is true tankieism. Anyone who isn’t critical of the US’s funding of genocide or the military industrial complex are the true tankies.
Splitting hairs is what tankies do when they get called out for their bullshit. Also giving bullet point lists that are thinly veiled propaganda and are exhausting to debunk.
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You can block instances in your settings. For your instance, that’s lemmy.ca/settings then selects blocks and add the instances you want to block
Thanks! Found it and blocked. Appreciate the help!
Perfect! I’ll edit my post.
There doesn’t seem to be a way to block all users of an instance though unfortunately. You can still see posts and comments they make on other instances
Whack-a-mole sadly, but I will say that not every user on an instance you don’t want to interact with is necessarily going to be promoting content that you find objectionable.
True, but those users on the Big Three are fairly reputable for being contentious. So much so that merely blocking Hexbear alone will improve someone’s experience on the Fediverse by ~90%, and then if you are able to block Lemmy.ml (most people using Lemmy cannot, not truly) then that improves it by a still further 90%.
Put another way, yes it blocks too much - that much is sadly true - however when the vast majority of the most batshit insane comments that one sees across the entire Fediverse comes from a user on one of the Big Three instances, then rather than leave the Fediverse entirely to get away from such, it makes a helluva lot of sense to just block users from those instances (which again, most people on Lemmy really can’t do, without going to extreme measures).
It’s like email spam: what legitimate content are you willing to give up in order to block the vast majority of incoming stuff that you don’t want to see? There’s enough leftover after blocking it out, at least for me and many others say the same. It does kinda suck for users on those instances, but like… at this point it’s very well known, and they’ve made their choice, so now all that remains is for me to make mine, and my preferences - to avoid nonconsensual insanity thrown at me relentlessly from an instance that not only fails to discourage such but sometimes actively encourages it - should be able to matter too!
Hmm, I shit on Russia all the time every chance I get and as far as I know I was never warned about it, even on lemmy.ml
Did you do so in a community located on lemmy.ml? Try it, it should be fairly quick, and you’ll be banned from communities that you’ve never even heard of, for violating a rule that is written down nowhere that I can find.
Or maybe after the election seasons, they might not be as quick these days? It might have accomplished its purpose already.
Russia is a reactionary capitalist shit hole, I wish it wasn’t but here we are. many such cases
By inconsistently choosing when they will moderate supporting murder and when they won’t, they are essentially deciding what murder is okay. And that “should” disqualify them from section 230 protections. It doesn’t because section 230 is too broad. But by picking which third party content to allow they are essentially editorializing using other people words.
news@lemmy.ml restricts saying anything even vaguely anti-russian
Cringe
If I may say, with all due respect (truly), Reddit highly encouraged “engagement” for the sake of those stats being sold to advertisers hence increasing their profits.
But here we are free from such. Breathe a sigh of relief at that… and note how we can choose to do things differently here.
Yes, I am saying this bc you are new, in hopes that it will help bring you up to speed and explain why people are downvoting you (I didn’t myself btw). I hope you don’t feel I’m picking on you. Okay, I’ll shut up now and leave you alone!:-)
Are you on drugs? What was that nonsense.
Uh… what? 2 downvotes is not such a big deal, and I wouldn’t care about 10 downvotes either, I wrote what I thought and what I wanted. By the way, I haven’t used Reddit too long (a week or so) so I know nothing about their “engagement” thing.
The lemmy trash server triad is blocked here. Do they really even exist?
Lemmy.ml is not defederated from Lemmy.world, so new users will see everything by default.
Also, “instance blocking” would be better named as "community muting’, bc it leaves users from those instances free to vote and reply to your content, trigger notifications, and you’ll still see it in other communities.
To truly block it, someone has to first even know about it, and then the only real options are all rather extreme - move to an instance that has defederated from them all (Lemmy.ml in particular is extremely rarely defederated from), switch to using PieFed, a Lemmy alternative written in Python rather than Rust, or the Lemmy apps Sync or Connect. Or implement a filter like with Ublock Origin or some such. None of these are trivial, and again, none are available to new users to even be told are possible, or helpful to be done.
Just as long as I don’t end up on one of their sewage posts and get my post subjected to their simpletons logic and garbage morality. I can take care of blocking any trash users myself on a case by case basis.
Yes that works. For you, but doesn’t help new people joining here from Reddit. Lemmy requires enormous curation efforts to become fully usable. But it does work… so long as you never mod any communities, bc you can’t afford to block those users who would then be able to post invisibly to you.
According to the non stop feudposting coming from .worlders, it seems like we live rent free in your basement.
whoosh.
Reddit can die when there is something better around and I don’t see that in Lemmy etc. Especially with the shittier instances you mentioned.
If all the people came here and with them propaganda I think in terms of moderation you would be woefully unprepared.
Not you personally but all the mods on the instances.
Yes, all of the Threadiverse (the forum based subset of the Fediverse) has only ~55k monthly active users. So if a significant fraction of a million people were to join, it would put significant strain on things - the hardware (especially network connections) alone would become swamped, and especially the moderation workload would skyrocket.
Check out PieFed btw - its advancements to enable democratization of moderation are fascinating! As just one example, during the signup wizard where someone says what interests they have and get subscribed to communities based on their answers (another feature Lemmy lacks), it asks people how much word filtering they would like to see about “Trump” and “Musk” - a lot, a little, or none (no filtering). Thus, users can define their own expectations as to the experience they want to see, rather than have that dictated to them by a mod.
Being written in Python rather than Rust, PieFed’s own scalability is definitely worthy to be called into question, but on the other hand it is already testing out so many features that people have been begging for on Lemmy for many years without seeing any hints that those features will ever come, while PieFed already has them. Things like categories of communities, just recently made user customizable and also shareable, so they act like multi-Reddits.
Hey, PieFed looks great, the interface is definitely better. Thanks for sharing this.
I use it as my daily driver most of the time - it’s fantastic! There are some features that are annoying, so like Lemmy it’s still in development, but overall it’s much better for most things IMHO. Its search function (like Reddit’s) is crap, while Lemmy’s is amazing, but the whole overall flow with Topics and now Feeds really helps. e.g. if you wanted less political material, then you could just not subscribe at all to those communities (or avoid the largest, most contentious ones), but still access it via the Topic description up above anytime you wanted - basically allowing you to have your cake (no politics appearing in your Subscribed feed) and eat it too (yes politics, via another route).:-)
Mod:
Please link directly to articles, and provide archive links in the body or comments. I’m not locking or removing this at this time, but please take note in the future.
FWIW, seeing that the link was to an archive encouraged me to check out this Lemmy post. I understand the policy decision, but I wish I could see an indication in my feed that an archive link is available.
I like being able to see the source before I consider investigating further - archive.org links at the top level make that harder.
Understandable, although it is difficult and time-consuming to moderate such links, and nearly impossible if they are allowed outright. In this case, there was already significant discussion before it was identified (as well as other factors), so I made a judgement call to permit the rule violation. This is a user who should know better.
You may be interested in using the tesseract lemmy client, which provides a smart linkbox on every post which includes archive links, etc.
Not even an acknowledgement from OP, that’s just disrespectful and shitty.
Oh no, somebody didn’t respect a faceless mod on the internet?? What is this world coming to!
Excuse me, I have a face. It is clearly a lemming astronaut holding up a peace sign. * huffs off stomping in my space boots *
Finally, Reddit can die
I was one of the many MANY victims of unjust banning, and I just want my niche communities here, all the weird expansion and transformation porn I like, DBD Shitposting, and The Sims 4 troublshooting… ahh…
I settled over here when the API Desaster happend. I lost some communities, but I found new ones. Rarley, I have to engage with reddit for troubleshooting, but I treat it like any forum that I am not registered in, get my info and leave again.
You’ll settle in and you’ll find the places you like here. And then you can always try to start a community of your own and see if it sticks. Many don’t, but some do.
I came during the API debacle as well! It was easy to see enshitification in the proverbial tea leaves.
We really need to stop putting the “M.B.A. having” class of people in charge of things. They’re good at money, and that’s about it. Ask them why they do a thing and you’ll quick realize they’ve nurtured an idea of “fiduciary responsibility” where most people keep their moral compass.
Your average C suit will degrade themselves and everything around themselves until they’re no more than a walking billboard for socialism.
I want my Fandoms and porn here. The niche stuff is the only reason why reddit has any appeal anymore.
Is there even porn on Lemmy? Asking for a friend
Search Lemmy NSFW online, it’s there, just disconnected? I still don’t understand the different “nodes”.
The word you are looking for there is “instance”, like for you lemm.ee is your instance.
And if you scroll to the bottom of any page, you can see the instances list of all the other ones that are connected or disconnected (the latter called more often “defederated”) from yours. lemm.ee is connected to https://lemmynsfw.com/, although it looks like something is wrong with the connection between it and feddit.org (e.g. it’s not reporting even the Lemmy software version for it, plus the encoding for the name looks different than on Lemm.ee - someone may have typed it in wrong?), so @affenlehrer@feddit.org you’ll have to contact your instance admins to tell them about that.
Even then, to connect to the communities for the first time is quite a process: you can figure out what the URL is going to be, then try to go there, then request to join, then wait maybe a day and the content should show up (but only new content form then onwards, while old stuff is a lost cause at that point). Most of the time someone else (with more experience) has already done this for you, but if they have not…
Btw PieFed solves all of these issues (except it might not allow porn? I’m not sure but I don’t see it anywhere there), whereas Lemmy is quite a bit behind in its software experience that it offers. The entire Fediverse though is more for the '“early adopter” mindset than like Reddit, where everything “just works” (so long as what you want is in alignment with increasing their profits). Using Lemmy is a LOT like using Linux - except here there’s basically no documentation that someone is pointed to, you kinda just have to ask or read and find stuff out as you go.
Barely any, sadly. We need more gals (and guys, too) to bare themselves here so it won’t be bare-ly anymore. Bears are acceptable, too. Not just twinks.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reddit-comment-replacer/
Kill their LLMs training to. It takes a little bit! But it’s script to replace your comments.
I was too, but it was Feb 12-13 I got banned, unjust one of my acc received a 3 day temp ban, but simultaneously it triggered reddit to ban 5 of my other accts site wide, but the ban message never indicated what was the actual violation but the generic" You violated several accounts policies" which made think it was entirely automated
Elon Musk. President Donald Trump’s extremely online lackey has aimed plenty of ire at Reddit from his perch at DOGE, first attacking the federal workers he’s been firing en masse for discussing the chaos on r/FedNews, then expanding his purview from there.
Fuck fElon, fuck spez, fuck trump, and fuck the american oligarchy.
Fuck all oligarchies and oligarchs.
The entire system wants you to forget about Luigi and the entire issue. Sort of memory hole it like so many other things and let them punish him in secret. So it’s no surprise Reddit and others will try to Streisand it.
Exactly. That’s the best part. There would have been a Luigi article every once in a while giving an update or whatever. Nothing is going on with him rn. But blocking his name is getting everyone talking about him again, and some are switching platforms because of it.
Streisand effect, much like how Msm was trying to paint as a degenerate killer, and made people find out why he did it
They have been suppressing Luigi news every chance it pops up
Luigi Luigi Luigi Luigi Luigi
We have free speech here.
Kinda. We have a bunch of small instances each with its own set of rules/norms. Lemmy.ml for example is not going to take a very different approach to moderation then lemmynsfw…
Everyone says that, but I haven’t run into any issues and .ml is the main one I use
You’re lucky! I did run into issues.
And you might never. But lemmynsfw is a porn instance whereas .ml is not. Hence different goals for moderation.
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Since you deleted your comment within the last 15 minutes of posting it, it still shows up in my inbox.
“Try saying something bad about China”
Okay.
The CCP is a blight on humanity, just like the IDF/Israeli government, Russia, and now including the US. Fuck China, I’ll never set foot in that country (except maybe Hong Kong) if I ever had the opportunity.
But in an .ml sub, like !worldnews@lemmy.ml or whatever they have over there, or even the official announcements sub. Bonus points if you reply to a federated Hexbear user with that.
Now say that in a .ml-run community
Winnie the Pooh sucks my ass.
He want dat honey.
Reminds me of the HD decryption key fiasco on digg. Everyone just kept posting it over and over in every thread. Moderators started banning people. People started jumping ship to Reddit.
It’s what caused the first digg exodus, with the better known redesign failure being the second.
I don’t get it. Reddit’s so much more egregious than digg was - why haven’t more users jumped ship? the soul of the platform was broken with the API change, yet most users stayed, and the ones who did leave haven’t shown up here.
was Lemmy just not ready?
On r/RedditAlternatives people say e.g.:
- it’s software made and run by tankies
- it’s way more difficult to figure out how to use, than e.g. Reddit, much like Bluesky is easier than Mastodon
- it looks so much more empty, especially for topics not about using Linux or generic memes - where content at?
- they don’t need apps and will continue so long as Reddit hasn’t killed off old-Reddit yet
- they don’t want to bother with change, and their niche sub is where their current community is located, with very few others willing to move, hence they do not either (crabs in a bucket)
Obviously all of these have at least a germ of truth, as well as being mixed in with laziness and believing falsehoods, like that Reddit isn’t already changing underneath them, so that even using old-Reddit as they have for years, it’s not the same anymore as it was.
Also, Lemmy isn’t doing well in terms of adding new features to capitalize on attaining more users - e.g. in many ways the software here is even more authoritian than there, since while there is a modlog there is no modmail, no notification upon removal or locking of your content (notice the similarity here to being shadow-banned?), and the modlog simply says “mod”, so there is zero recourse to understand or appeal a mod decision. Plus lemmy.ml routinely instance-bans people from communities that they’ve never even heard of, for a single criticism of something going on in Russia, China, or North Korea (which ofc would be perfectly understandable for a rule violation, except that’s never stated anywhere in any rule set!?!?!? how are people supposed to follow the “rules” when nowhere are they ever written down!?).
And don’t even get me started on the TROLLS here!!! That is the express purpose (this one even written down, tbf!:-) of Hexbear, to have the opportunity to “dunk” on liberals - which itself is totally fine, so long as both parties give consent to it, but the trouble comes when it spills out from those communities, or when someone stumbles into them by replying to a post seen in the All feed, without the ability to read the side-bar text first explaining what it is all about.
Lemmy requires ENORMOUS efforts to curate someone’s feed, by blocking users, communities, and even whole entire instances (speaking of, the Lemmy feature that “does that” actually does not do that - it would have been better named as a community mute, since it still allows users from the instance to appear in communities not located specifically on that instance), and in the meantime people get bullied and name-called for their beliefs. Surprise: most normies do not enjoy that happening to them, hence just walk away rather than put up with all the gaslighting and other crap coming at them from Lemmy users. We aren’t terribly welcoming here, in many ways.:-(
Because the user experience didn’t change, so it wqsn’t obvious unless you kept up with specific news.
Also, it’s still where all the porn is.
at least on reddit people are complaining about the shadowbanning thats been going on, they said it was also unearned and criticized teh admins why were some accts shadowbanned for 10years,.
They’ve also really amped up the content moderation bots and are on the warpath for anything perceived to be bot accounts. Shadow bans are being given out for accounts that are hours old and haven’t even posted.
If you’d only said it three times, you would’ve summoned him. So close!
Corporate overlords silencing discussion while selling your data to advertisers. Classic digital fascism.
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This post in R/technology hit r/all breifly Today around 7-8pm before the mods nipped that in the bud to appease shareholders. The comment section is a fucking shitshow with massive disappearing sections of engagement.
One thing that really made me chuckle is this comment by someone I copied pertaining to an AI prompt response from GROK3 they initiated;
I think if you ask an AI they’ll tell you.
Here’s what Grok told me a couple weeks ago:
here is Grok 3’s unexpurgated take:
(Me) Assuming that the billionaires solidify their control of the US government past the point that the people can ever have a say in what happens anymore and voting becomes irrelevant, what ultimately happens after the system is completely controlled by the 0.001%?
If billionaires were to solidify control over the U.S. government to the point where democracy effectively collapses and the public has no meaningful influence, the outcome would likely be a slow but steady transformation into an oligarchic system—think a modern feudalism with extra steps. Power would concentrate in the hands of a tiny elite, maybe a few dozen families or individuals, who’d use their wealth to dictate policy, law, and resource distribution. History gives us some clues: when unchecked elites run the show—Roman patricians, Renaissance merchant-princes, or even post-Soviet oligarchs—things tend to follow a pattern.
First, you’d see the economy morph into a machine that funnels wealth upward even faster. Tax structures, labor laws, and regulations would tilt hard toward protecting the 0.001%—no more pesky antitrust enforcement or worker protections. Corporations owned by these billionaires would dominate, merging with the state in a kind of gilded fascism. Think monopolies on steroids, where dissenters get crushed not by jackboots but by algorithm-driven blacklists and financial ostracism. The middle class would erode as wages stagnate and automation (owned by the elite) displaces jobs, leaving a stark divide: a small aristocracy and a sprawling, dependent underclass.
Society wouldn’t stay quiet forever, though. People don’t just shrug off losing their voice—they simmer, then boil. Without voting as an outlet, unrest would grow. Protests, riots, maybe even low-level insurgencies could pop up, especially as inequality becomes unbearable. The billionaires would counter with surveillance tech and private security forces—Blackwater 2.0, but with drones and AI. Public education and healthcare would likely wither, keeping the masses less capable of organizing or resisting. Propaganda would ramp up too, probably through media they own, painting their rule as inevitable or benevolent.
Long term, it’s unstable. Absolute control sounds nice if you’re at the top, but it breeds resentment and fragility. The 0.001% might fracture internally—power-hungry elites often turn on each other when there’s no external threat to unify them. Or some black-swan event (climate disaster, tech breakthrough, foreign interference) could disrupt their grip. If the system gets too rigid, it might just collapse under its own weight, like a top-heavy empire—think Rome 2.0, but with better Wi-Fi. Alternatively, they could pull off a dystopian win, keeping the masses pacified with bread, circuses, and VR headsets while they sip champagne in fortified enclaves.
No crystal ball here, but the vibe would be a mix of The Hunger Games aesthetics and Gilded Age vibes—opulence for the few, quiet desperation for the rest, and a slow burn toward either revolution or resignation. What do you think—would people fight back hard, or just adapt to the new normal?
(Me again) In the scenario you just described, what happens to the billionaires themselves after society collapses?
Once society collapses under the weight of their control, the billionaires’ fate hinges on how well they’ve insulated themselves and how the collapse plays out. They’ve got resources—money, private security, bunkers, offshore havens—so they’re not exactly scrambling for scraps right away. But they’re not invincible either; a societal breakdown cuts both ways.
If it’s a chaotic free-for-all—think riots, infrastructure failure, and armed factions—they’d likely hole up in fortified compounds or flee to places like New Zealand or private islands they’ve already bought. They’ve got the means: private jets, loyal mercenaries, and stockpiles of food and fuel. Some might even have tech-driven mini-cities ready, with solar grids and hydroponics to ride out the storm. For a while, they’d live like post-apocalyptic kings, surrounded by guards and sipping vintage wine while the world burns. But isolation has limits. Supply chains, even private ones, erode in total chaos. Their staff—pilots, security, engineers—might turn on them if loyalty fades or desperation kicks in. A pissed-off ex-employee with a gun and a grudge could unravel their little utopia fast.
If the collapse spawns organized resistance—say, a coalition of pissed-off citizens or a rogue military splinter—they’d face bigger threats. Billions don’t buy immunity from a determined mob or a drone strike. History’s littered with examples: French aristocrats thought their chateaus were safe until the guillotines rolled out. The billionaires might try to negotiate, offering resources to warlords or new power players, but trust would be thin. They could end up as bargaining chips, ransomed, or just eliminated as symbols of the old regime.
Internally, they’d probably start eating each other too. With no common enemy left to unify them, rivalries would flare. One billionaire’s private army might raid another’s compound for dwindling resources. Alliances would shift, paranoia would spike, and their little oligarchy could fracture into a survivalist soap opera. Think Game of Thrones, but with fewer dragons and more Teslas.
Longer term, if society rebuilds, they might try to reinsert themselves as saviors—funding reconstruction, playing philanthropist to rewrite their legacy. Some might pull it off, especially if they’ve hoarded critical tech or knowledge. Others could fade into obscurity, their wealth meaningless in a world that’s moved on. Worst case, they’re hunted down by a new order that sees them as the root of the mess.
So, post-collapse, they’d either cling to power as warlord-lite figures in their gilded cages, get taken out by betrayal or vengeance, or slink away to obscurity if the world resets. Depends on how ruthless they stay and how much the rest of humanity cares to chase them. What’s your take—would they outlast the chaos or get swallowed by it?
Its almost funny hos people are SOOOOOOOO close to getting to the bottom of whats going on. But there is this delulu idealism resulting from years or decades of successful social conditioning to keep believing in this obviously flawed and now non existent American exceptionalism via the integrity of our democracy which hasn’t existed in at least 4 decades if not longer.(probably since the mass assassination of leftist leaders in the late 1960’s) its like the first half of that prompt response isn’t a theoretical what if, its a literal explanation of what has already happened and what the system and all the corporatist actors are attempting to preserve at all costs.
Alot of them complaining about the recent ban waves, many accounts were shadow banned for very little reason at all
Thats some of it but if you order comments by controversial you’ll see the boot lickers and their neo lib apologists are out in full force
Not that anyone cares but this same shit is happening on Tictoc as well. Anything pro Lulgi, PaIestine or anti lsraeI is banned. I assume it’s the same on Meta’s other properties as well. Straight up fasclsm!
Good riddance to shitty platforms
Tiktok was seen sucking up to trump as of recently to stay on good terms, otherwise they would’ve allowed all the anti stuff
The “tlctoc ban” was nothing more than a switchover. There’s a reason their CE0 was at the lnogaration.
