Victor Perez, 17, who also had cerebral palsy, had been in a coma since the April 5 shooting, and tests Friday showed that he had no brain activity, his aunt, Ana Vazquez, told The Associated Press. He had undergone several surgeries, with doctors removing nine bullets and amputating his leg.

The shooting outraged Perez’s family and Pocatello residents, and about 200 people attended a vigil Saturday morning outside the Pocatello hospital where he was treated. Another crowd of protesters gathered outside the Pocatello City Hall building, which also houses the police department, on Saturday afternoon. Police snipers were stationed on a nearby rooftop during the protest, though no violence was reported. Many of the protesters held signs with phrases like, “Do better, PPD” and “Justice for Victor,” and passing cars honked in acknowledgment.

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    The officers, whose names have not been released, were placed on administrative leave.

    Anonymity and a paid vacation for a lead amputation of a neurodivergent teen. And then they add insult to injury by posting up fucking snipers. I can’t say anything else that won’t get me a ban…

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    What a stupid headline. He was killed from a police shooting, not from being removed from life support.

    Maybe next time a killer is on trail he cpuld just argue that the victim just happened to die later from blood loss, not from the shooting.

    I wish headlines were more direct.

    “Police killed…” “Teacher raped…” “Politician lied…”

    Not “Victim died after police…” “Teacher had sex with underage student…” Etc

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      newspapers are long in the business of not getting sued.

      If you write a story about a rich enough person, they have someone whose job it is to litigate every story about them. It’s automatic. They do something news worthy and all you do is repeat the fact, the lawsuit is on your desk the same day. Doesn’t matter how truthful it is, the lawsuit is there because they are rich.

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        Time we started making anti-money instead. The more you invest per period of time, the less privileges and opportunities you are allowed depending on how much anti-money you’re saddled with until you die.

        Oh, you don’t like that this penalizes tall poppies? I am a tall poppy. The rich cut ME off. Why? Because I was never rich but I had skill and talent and I hate people who abuse authority. Because the rich don’t care about tall poppies, they care only about THEIR legacy. Fuck the shears and the gardener, everyone.

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    Police snipers were stationed on a nearby rooftop during the protest

    Land of the free

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    Just a reminder, Blue Lives are supposed to matter less than everyone else. That’s why they sre issued a badge and a gun. They are supposed to put themselves at risk to protect the community. At least, that’s the story we’re told as kids. It’s the justification used to obtain our consent to be policed.

    If police are so afraid for their safety that they kill innocent civilians, even by mistake, then they do not deserve our consent. The do not deserve authority over us, they do not deserve the free use of force, and they do not deserve the legal deference provided them by our justice system.

    Blue Lives Don’t Matter, or it’s fascism.

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    nine bullets

    Nine fucking bullets to stop a kid with a knife. What the fuck are these pigs thinking?

    They didn’t even try to de-escalation the situation, or use non-lethal shit to try stop him. Just straight out emptying a magazine on him

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      Nine bullets that found their mark. In most police shootings it’s only about a quarter of shots that actually hit their intended target. It’s a miracle that nobody else was injured.

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      Nine bullets that hit the kid they were “aiming” at, who was on the other side of a chainlink fence that his cerebral palsy prevents him from scaling no less. Multiply the number of pigs involved by the magazine capacity of their firearms to find out how many rounds were actually fired.

      Both awful shots, and fucking cowardly to boot.

      They should be stripped of their authority and paraded through the streets tarred and fucking feathered for what they’ve done.

      What they’ll get instead is paid leave, and moved to another precinct upon their return to work, at worst.

      The US is fucked from the ground up, all Trump is doing is accelerating the decline, waving the corruption around like a flag, rather than behind closed doors. (Like it’s done everywhere else)

      Edit: 4 pigs, guessing 11 round capacity, means 44 rounds expended, to hit with 9.

      I have never fired a handgun in my life, and I am confident I could do better than that. The fact that “trained” individuals are this bad is humiliating to those involved.

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      People overestimate the stopping power of bullets. Bullets will indeed kill somebody but it’s not instant like in the movies.

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          Yes, absolutely. But you you have somebody running towards you with a knife you don’t have time to consider and evaluate all of them. “Are they still moving” is pretty much all the input you can evaluate.

          I’m not excusing the cops here. I’m just pointing out the misunderstanding of “why so many bullets” for which I will be heavily down-voted and shouted at.

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            Fair enough, but it seems like the cops should have the intelligence and situational awareness to understand the stopping power of a chain-link fence.

            Im not a TRAINED cop, but I know that as long as he’s on the other side of the fence, armed only with a knife, I’m in no immediate danger, and I would use my words and my intelligence to try to talk him down.

            If he jumps the fence, then it’s a different situation, but as long as he is caged, there are a LOT more steps to go through before we land on a magdump by multiple cops.

            Frankly, I think the situation here is that one super-cowardly (or overly aggresive and trigger-happy) cop panicked and fired, and the rest unloaded, too, just to cover for the first one. Now they can’t just blame one bad cop, they have a bunch, which makes it look more justified. They probably talk about this strategy in the locker room - “If one fires, we all fire.”

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              I have heard multiple firearms trainers give statements to the effect of

              If your open hand skill [unarmed fighting] sucks, you will rush to the firearm instead of other options because you don’t have faith in yourself. And when the first bullet doesn’t do the magic of an ‘instant stop’ like people pretend, you’ll end up mag dumping.

              And if you watch police body-cam footage, you can see their panic switch pull the trigger, and then the cadence of gunfire rapidly picks up after that first shot.

              Go look at any police force in Europe where the ‘suspect with a knife’ gets vastly different treatment.

              • Police gang up and tackle them
              • Nets/bolas style deployable restraints
              • Low speed vehicle ramming to get the suspect on the floor and dazed
              • Beanbag/less lethal shots to the body for pain compliance/muscle shock so they drop the knife

              Euro cops almost always have a pistol, but the mentality is completely different regarding shoot v no-shoot

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              Yeah - it’s the panicy bit that’s such a problem. They failed the moment they opened fire. Cops need to be better trained to understand the difference between life threatening and not. And that frankly that their job is to accept some risk on behalf of the public.

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            Only lightly downvoted, nice

            # of bullets is always an entirely understandable distraction

            Was a firearm drawn? Was it discharged? Don’t care about # of bullets personally, one could kill my loved one just like 10,000 could.

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    Police snipers were stationed on a nearby rooftop during the protest

    Hey hey hey now, if you’re going to protest our violence we may get you a whole lot more that, so be careful now!

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      Here’s a reminder that the Black Panthers started because people realized that peaceful unarmed protests were quickly met with police violence… But peaceful heavily armed protests had cops politely watching from across the street. Turns out, cops are a lot less likely to blindly fire into crowds when the crowds are capable of returning fire with overwhelming force.

      Even MLK Jr said that peaceful protest only gets you so far; Disrupting highway traffic is fine for bringing awareness to your plight, but at a certain point the lawmakers and dug-in oligarchs need to be forced to change.

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          Yeah, I was going to mention that modern gun control was started by republicans because they were scared of armed black protestors. But that felt a little too tangential for a single comment.

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    The kid was on the other side of a chain link fence fence! He was literally in a cage.

    Why do we put the community’s biggest cowards in charge of protecting us?

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      They are trained to fear everything and everyone. They live in a paranoid fantasy world where everyone is out to get them. They are brainwashed into thinking they are the only thing protecting societal collapse. I’ve seen a cop post an image macro that says “police are more virtuous than superman because they protect people without having superpowers.” Of course that guy is also a white christian nationslist.

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        Yeah, he doesn’t have superpowers, but he is carrying a taser, an asp, and a gun at all times, and he has an arsenal in his trunk.

        Cops are always whining about how dangerous their job is, but lists of Dangerous Jobs usually have them in the high teens. Sometimes they dont even make the top 20.

        I’ve had two jobs in the top 5, and I have NEVER walked around demanding respect because my life was in constant danger.

        Fucking babies.

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            And I respect their service greatly. They actually provide a very valuable service to society.

            Cops, on the other hand, are primarily predatory. As much as we see this sort of violent behavior, most of their job consists of sitting by the side of the road and pulling innocent drivers over and giving them a tax increase in the form of tickets. Most people don’t go through their day worring about getting shot by cops, but every driver spends every minute on the road watching out for cops.

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          I had active shooter training at work. They brought in this cop who said we should have our head on a swivel at all times! Bro, I’m more worried about getting crushed by a forklift or falling off the scissor lift, or losing a finger or some shit. We are not in an active warzone (yet).

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      I thought maybe there was someone else on the other side with him but nope, just him, stumbling towards a fence. That’s not policing that’s a fucking execution.

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      Dave Grossman is a conman who should be in prison for the shits he’s peddled to the LE community; and fostering and fomenting an “us against them”.

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      This was chosen by design. It’s the most racist and selfish fucking bullshit you could spew, it ruined policing in the US and that’s what the republicans wanted.

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    Tired of these morons with tin badges killing with impunity. They say they’re afraid of everything, to justify killing. Maybe it’s time to give them something to actually fear. Maybe we’re afraid of them.

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    Stories like this make my blood boil. Nothing will every be right until these thugs are put in jail where they belong. We are a long way from there right now. More than likely they will give them a raise for killing him.

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        Idastan just brought back firing squads. They’ve already used it once iirc.

        That said, I feel like jail is a worse punishment. I don’t think cops fair well in jail. I want them to be looking over their shoulder for the rest of their lives while in prison. To never get out. To look out the barred window at the world passing them by in their cement tomb.

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        Hey man I’m holding out hope for one good apple.

        But I’m also waiting for seasons 7-9 of the expanse.

        Maybe I should just shit in my other hand and actually have something.

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        In the US, absolutely. Fortunately it doesn’t have to be that way, however I do not think there is any coming back from the police being the direct successors of slave patrols. Best for the states to just separate into several nations and eventually form some sort of EU-like economic pact, otherwise North America will be the new Africa.

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    RIP young man.

    In Trump’s America, if he survived, ICE would grab at the hospital and deport him.