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I’m not saying Donald is a russian asset… But what more could daddy vladdy wish for?
We really need to examine this need people have to blame Russia for everything. Do you blame Russia when your dryer loses a sock too? It’s fascinating to me.
I might if Russia had a vested interest in taking my socks, and the dryer had a history of justifying Russia’s sock stealing.
That’s a load bearing “if”, holy cow.
several intelligence offices from several countries have proven russian influence into western politics, infrastructure and social media. What is your claim based on? Feelings? Strong base to stand on lmao
Shit response try again
What the fuck are you talking about?
He’s wanted to use that “load bearing” line for a while now.
You know, one of the ways to recognize AI comments is odd analogies, but idk if this qualifies.
Are we, including or excluding that it’s all, but been confirmed that he is a Russian asset ?whether it’s willing or unwilling remains to be seen.
Let’s pretend he isn’t a Russian asset. What would he do differently upon becoming one? At this point, being a Russian asset is the better explanation for his actions. If he isn’t, he’s making a lot of dumb decisions that benefit Putin and hurt the US and her allies.
Mike Lee is a notoriously despicable person even by GOP standards and the bill doesn’t have any legs. Like, just a week ago he said terrible things about the Minnasotan politicians who were shot dead in their homes, and he’s also the one who was pushing to sell off public lands (which he was bullied out of; also seems to be in the pocket of the Mormon cult).
The US stance on NATO is complicated under the current US regime but I doubt it’ll be by this assholes bill.
Yup. Doing Putin’s work. So you’re going to withrdraw from an even more powerful alliance right in the middle of an arms race. Fucking genius strategery right there.
Oh boy this Putin guy sounds powerful! He must have 64 bit washing machine CPUs!
Never take responsibility for the state of your society and country.
This dude acts like his country’s shit don’t stink.
This is literally the behavior of a traitor
Seriously, what happened USA? You were never the best, not even close, you were one of the worst, but st least you tried. Now you just kinda dropped pretence and went full asshole
And only 6 months into one administration. Honestly I’ve never seen politicians work so fast at anything
4 years followed by 4 years of biden where republicans blocked almost everything but he is now a perfect puppet to blame for everything and now the next 6 months. But Trump already started to refill positions back then.
So we dont buy US military kit. It’s got kill switches and hard to keep running without their support. It’s increasing looking like they aren’t aligned with the free world.
I recommend buying all of Hobby Kings >80 amp ESCs, all their 4S batteries, and lots of high KV outrunner BLDCs. Then buy all the carbon fiber sheets from aliexpress and build drones baby.
Meanwhile, Putin and Russia is cheering this on. The parties they are going to throw are going to be absolutely epic. You’ve heard the party of the decade, you’ve heard of the party of the century, get ready for the party of the millennium.
Well, in a democracy it’s important that people who want this can try to make it happen via official procedure, which this is.
That said, the people who want this are assholes and probably in bed with Russia.
That is the problem with democracies - they have no active protection of their own because it would be undemocratic on principle.
They do have active protection; education. Under attack since the dawn of time.
Education… educated people think about things. Above all, when is the best time to have a child in terms of financial situation etc. Political and world events etc. can also be taken into consideration. .
Meanwhile, the uneducated have the 4-5 child.
The educated now have the problem of age and have waited too long/thought about the fact that having a child is no longer an option.that take is from the movie Idiocracy, and is not a fact
Oh yes, look at the falling birth rates in countries with prosperity… Then compare that with other places in the world… then don’t forget that in other parts of the world many die as babies or children and yet there are constant or rising rates.
I’m not saying that educated people are dying out or that education is dying out. However, there will always be more stupid people. Especially as the prosperity of the educated is built on the stupid.
prosperity of the educated is built on the stupid.
Can I steal this? Or is this from somewhere else?
I haven’t copied it from anywhere else, but it’s a pretty general statement anyway.
And then Russia can do whatever the fuck they want. Which is what daddy Trump wants.
Oh trump’s definitely not the “daddy” in this relationship.
Not really. European NATO countries are currently strong enough to repel a Russian attack if we so wish. Taking into account how strong the Russia is at the moment. It will be stronger in the future, but we are easily able to increase our strength more than the Russia can.
And if USA withdraws from NATO, then the rest of EU, not only Finland, Baltics, Sweden, and Poland will be forced to take defence seriously. This will make NATO more like it was supposed to be, and it will no longer be used for offensive wars.
But… USA withdrawing from NATO would of course have negative sides:
- a war with the Russia would not end in two days with a decisive victory for us as it would with USA in, but would drag on for weeks at least, likely years. And thousands or tens of thousands would die.
- USA’s allies in Asia would not dare to trust USA anymore and would turn towards China for coöperation, regardless of China’s imperialism. This would make China stronger, which would be bad for Europe.
But still: The EU is the biggest economy on this planet. We are absolutely able to win a war against a country with an economy only as big as one of our 27 member states. We just need to bother to do so. Which means we’ll need to change our mindset. Heh.
I’m fairly sure Ukraine is almost stronger than EU combined right now. We would NOT speedrun Russia, and Russia is a death cult that would have hundreds if not millions of casualties on their side, even if we did (saying this as a Serbian, and we are normally very proud of our combat abilities for some reason).
Meanwhile Rutte just said the other day that he trusts that Donald is committed to said alliance XD
Mike Lee floats a lot of turds, even in excess of what the standard put out. He’s been agitating against NATO membership practically since his first day in the Senate, along with his close friend Rand Paul.
This bill won’t even make it out of committee, unless Lee can get a bug in Trump’s ear over it.
Incredible to observe the rapid (self)destruction of US. I’m just waiting for a couple of states to declare independence. Within a 5-10 years USA will be history like the Sovjet Union; it will break down into smaller countries.
all of which is advantageous for putin.
Not without a lot of bloodshed, unfortunately.
That’s fine, just pack your shit and close all military bases in nato countries as well.
Hey, you know how much money they spend on having this bases? Some regions depend on it.
On the other hand… I think Trump and his mad posse wouldn’t risc being such bigmouths without their Bases in Turkey or Ramstein.
Also their level of megalomanic moronity makes me fear that when the USA leaves Nato it would start attacking the rest of the world. Canada and Mexico first. Then they would find “justifications” to raid through middle america and “bring idiocrazy” to south america. Reinstating slavery for everyone that ain’t “a good godfearing white patriot”… Because… the white race is superiour and needs Lebensraum… Oh god, I’ve heard that shit all over in history class when I grew up in Germany in the 1970ies…
Please, anyone stop them now!!!
We should wait for them to start a war with someone like Canada, and THEN ambush them. But to do that, Russia needs to be overrun.
I think preventing any unnecessary bloodshed should be first priority.
I remember german history class aswell, it might get ugly history seems to repeat itself a lot.
Yes, why do people never learn from history… Especially when it endangers their lives
Damnit I remember the frogging digits of the telefonnumber we had in out flat from where we lived until 1980!
Unfortunately, that’s not how Imperial Presidencies work.
US: “NATO members need to up their defense spending!”
NATO: “Okay, we’ll do it.”
US: “Actually, We’re leaving NATO.” 🤡
Trump isn’t wrong that European NATO countries have needed to increase their defence spending for a long time. It remains to be seen which European NATO countries will actually do so or can: words are easy. (Just call Trump ‘Daddy’ and agree to whatever he says lol before continuing with whatever we intended to do all along anyway!)
Trump and many other Americans in positions of power obviously have been Russian assets to various degrees for a long time now, but the last thing Russia wants is Trump’s actions forcing Europe to spend more on defence, and end their reliance on the US.
Russia would prefer complacent European NATO/EU nations relying on America, who would pull the rug out from under them - similar to what America has done to Ukraine - when Russia was in a position to attack NATO further. I guess the timing just won’t be right for that outcome, unless Trump forces a third term, so Putin will be happy with what he has achieved.
As well as a Russian asset Trump is also just a bit of a moron who doesn’t see the value in the US dollar as global reserve currency. Maybe he sees the rise of China and thinks ‘this is what the US needs to do again. Go back to developing world status and become the world’s factory in order to rise later as China is now’. Trump doesn’t appear have much in the way of strategic thinking. He appears to have an unchangeable very out of date world view, and more he is driven by the pathological impulse to acquire everything he can for himself. The uber-pig.
This return to developing world status would be great for billionaires but not for your average American, never mind brown skinned Americans, women, the poor (ironically Trump’s base I guess), and other minorities.
I suppose with this post I have rendered myself persona-non-grata in the US now for the next several years and probably beyond (once border policies are put in place they don’t change easily). Pity. I like the Americans I have known and always wanted to visit.
It’s a common American view that the other countries weren’t spending “enough”, whereas from the perspective of everyone else on the planet it’s America that’s spending a hugely disproportionate amount of wealth on killing, and just expecting its allies to do the same.
My comment on Europe needing to spend more was simply in terms of the reality of facing down a belligerent Russia.
Americans generally do not seem to understand that their massive military spending is actually in support of and necessary as long as they wanted the dollar as global reserve currency. This doesn’t surprise me and isn’t really a criticism (we have similar issues in the UK). The American people I have come across online appear to have grown up being told they are exceptional, the best, apparently without actually being told the reality of 20th century economic history.
The world was forced to buy oil in dollars due to the arrangement the US made with the Saudis, meaning the world had to buy US debt if it wanted oil. Obviously in this scenario the US print the money other people are borrowing facilitating the transfer of wealth that is coming to an end. When the likes of Saddam Hussein said he was going to sell oil in Euros he got a good ol’ dose of freedom. The 9/11 attackers were Saudis but the US would never touch them due to this arrangement. Anyway, this is why US defence spending has been what it has been. It isn’t the case that the rest of the world should have paid more. In fact the rest of the world paid the US deficit at least in part by this mechanism. Trump is bringing those halcyon days to a premature end intentionally because now he wants the likes of Europe to pay US debts but not get military support lol.
If/when the US doesn’t spend that money on military support of regions like Europe the US are in a sense reneging on their agreement and so they no longer get that global reserve currency status, everybody sells US debt, the dollar is greatly weakened (which might be what Trump wants, in terms of making US made goods affordable for people outside the US, whether misguided or not) and presumably interest rates rise considerably. Moving away from SWIFT and the WTO are 100% unambiguous signals of the EU’s intent to ‘dedollarise’ we have seen in just the last few days.
This reserve currency status is roughly what has given America a large amount of unearned global wealth post ww2, and more or less allowed boomers to buy a home on one wage etc. Changing it is a huge upheaval on US life that will last many decades. Military spending has supported the dollar, Trump is more or less throwing that away.
I’m pretty sure that last decade or so has shown that Europe doesn’t spend enough. It’s not just Russia’s invasion. Military action in Libya was reliant on the US to sustain more than a few days of action.
Of course NATO is not a trusted organization to an administration consisting exclusively of Russian agents.
Seriously, are we sure these assholes even speak English and have English names or is there some cover-up going on?
It seems highly unlikely for this to pass. There are so many bills being proposed but often it’s not actually relevant since it’s going nowhere.
Agreed. Sensationalist newsweek article and title.
