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    Russian could have been such a woke language if Russia wasn’t such a right-wing shithole. It’s kind of elegant how you gender verbs when talking about yourself, because your conversation partner can just pick up on it and gender you accordingly.

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    I have friends who use it. It feels kind of weird and wrong for me as if I’m objectiving them but if that’s what they want it’s what they get.

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      Yeah I’d be quite uncomfortable with calling anyone “it”. I’ll gladly use they/them, I’d be down to learn some neopronouns, but calling someone “it” is something I’d rather avoid. Even if someone likes “it” pronouns, I’d still feel incredibly weird doing so in public. Calling people an “it” is often done here to mock androgynous people. It feels dehumanizing. If I were to do so in public, it would mean they people around me (who don’t know the other person’s preference) would probably assume I’m doing so to mock them.

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        On the other hand, when I was learning English this was the weirdest thing to me. What do you mean you have a gender neutral pronoun and it’s not acceptable to use it to refer to someone we don’t know the gender of?

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        I admit I use “they” when they’re not around and luckily it rarely happens that I need to use their pronouns when I’m out with them.

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      I have friends who use “it”. It feels kind of weird and wrong for me as if I’m objectifying it but if that’s what it wants it’s what it gets.

      ftfy

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    No joke: in my native German dialect, women are grammatically neutral.

    My then gf was completely shocked when visiting my birth region for the first time.
    It still married me, though! :-)

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    You know what’s weird? I’ve caught myself saying “it” about people a few times passively lately and then correcting myself and wondering where the fuck that came from

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    In Chinese, verbally the world for he, she, and it are all the same pronunciation. It is only differentiated in writing.

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        There is only one third person singular pronoun (“O”) used for people (regardless of gender) and objects alike.

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          Huh once again, hungarian is very similar to turkish. We have “ő” for that. No aninimity or gender distinction. Tho we do have this, that and a third one which i guess translates to yonder? But yeah in some constructions you can specify aninimity with them.

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          Also the word for “they” is “onlar” which is just “o” with the prular suffix “lar” attached, that’s like using “its” to mean “them.”

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    Using “it” to refer to human beings feels super disrespectful to me. Dehumanizing much? 1992 called they want their attitudes about trans people back. Obviously if someone told me they prefer “it” pronouns I’d use them but I would feel gross about it.

    Edit to add that I have nothing against the Finnish people, and obviously there’s a huge cultural difference between being totally fine and just a part of the language versus the cruel and dehumanizing way that “it” is used in the United States. It’s clearly not the same and to assert otherwise, frankly, feels intellectually dishonest. I didn’t expect to have to make that distinction.

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      Don’t learn Finnish I guess.

      No gendered pronouns and we honestly use “it” (se) as a pronoun. No, I would never use it in English unless I meant to purposefully dehumanise someone, but in Finnish it’s just the normal colloquial version of a personal pronoun, whereas “hän” is a 3rd person pronoun that’s more formal, (but also non-gendered) . Pets usually get to be referred to as “hän” with the more formal personal pronoun, weirdly enough.

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          And you’ll probably understand why instinctively I would say cats get that more than dogs.

          (And I’m a dog-person much more than a cat-person.)

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      You wouldn’t like how people in Finland speak then 😅

      (We have hän for s/he but almost everyone just uses se {it} in spoken language)

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      Why would you feel gross respecting a trans person’s preferred pronouns? If a trans person wants to be thought of as an object, would you genuinely think of it as an object, or would you think of it as a person but still call it by its preferred pronouns? Because the second option would cause cognitive dissonance and might be the reason you’d feel gross.

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      Don’t read Lois McMaster Bujolds “Vorkosigan Saga” One of the bio engineered races preferred “it” when being gendered.