Apple doesn’t fall far.

They INVENTED modern imperialism, first trialling it in the “Irish plantations” starting in the 16th century, long before America’s colonies. If one could go back in time to stop anything…

Migration was the one big issue that carried Brexit. It made them all forget anything else and blindly believe brexiters, if only there were no more brown people coming into the country.

It was the racist vote.

But besides that, there is racism everywhere. How its dealt with is the difference. I’m personally very glad to see the big counter protests now. They have become too confident to be loud about their hate again and we all have to put them back into their place, making it clear that this is not acceptable.

… Where did you think we got it from? Just look at how the Aussies treated the Aboriginals.

It’s a real mixed bag from what I know. They got rid of slavery much earlier, I don’t think they have the baggage of Jim Crow that US frankly still has. Afaik black people were more accepted in society. But the recent immigration trend changed things and there is real anti Islam sentiment afaik. I’m really not that well versed in it though.

Check out the Catholic versus Protestant angle there, always good for a row.

I lived for over a decade in Britain and had both afro-descendant and muslim friends who were discriminated against over there, even before Brexit.

Even I got discriminated against because of being Portuguese (though nowhere are much as they did).

Britain has for long been one of the most rightwing countries in Europe, it’s just that they’re very good at image management and their far right leaders are posh types with upper class education and accents, not slang-using rabble rousing loudmouths with low-class accents.

Brexit didn’t happen in a vacuum.

Kavernacle just did a very succinct video on this exact topic https://youtu.be/JmA-0it04Wk?feature=shared

It really does feel like that right now, as someone who lives in northern England.

Lol. They’re every bit as racist, if not more so.

I always like to say that the USA kept all the worst parts of British culture. That’s not to say that Americans aren’t decent generally speaking. Just that…idk…imperialistic tendencies, systemic racism, highly stratified social class dynamics, random violence…kinda shitty politics dominated by 2 parties who are centre/right and shifting further right.

Well you know its much easier to blame the match than have a little bit of self reflection.

Uhhhh what? Americans are just louder

The British Empire was an egalitarian paradise, imo

Edit: I guess I have to add an /s lmao

You thought wrong, most of the world is more racist than the US

its not consequences until it starts affecting her, which in this case did. I hope other people jointly sue her for damages or sth so that at least she has to go to court and pay lawyer fees

unfortunately these people are more inclined to make kids than the reasonable ones

Unfortunately their hands were tied. They don’t release information about minors. That’s just the law. It was determined shortly after by a judge to release the information due to the growing disinformation to quell violence, but the die had already been cast.

The reason they don’t release information is simply because they’re children, and they don’t want idolisation but also harassment to occur.

Same reason why names of mass murder events shouldn’t be released anyway, to prevent the perpetrators from becoming martyrs. They’re just known as “the killer” etc

Now this usually works fine as much as there are arguments for and against, however this event became somewhat a unique case, and an opportunity was found by malicious actors to use it for their own benefit.

After the Reform party gained considerable ground, they now need to keep momentum of having a constant “enemy” and “other” in the public eye, a never ending threat. Fascism 101.

And so, stoking the flames of the current migrant “crisis” if you let slip in certain places that the perpetrator was a migrant Muslim, you hope that the snowball can become an avalanche. And avalanche it did.

All the while the leaders such as Farage can claim innocence with very particular wording to wriggle out of any scrutiny.

The police cannot be going around releasing information the otherwise wouldn’t do just to stop dipshits online. There’s a reason they don’t release this information right away.

Let’s say there’s an investigation and somebody is murdered and in the course of the investigation for some reason the police think that you might be the murderer. They arrest you, and you provide DNA and it proves that you are innocent. I am sure you would not want your information released to the public in advance of a conviction.

This isn’t just a hypothetical either there has been plenty of cases where innocent people have been accused of a crime, and then exonerated, but by that point the damage to their reputation has already been done even though they did literally nothing wrong. The police have to confirm that the person they have in custody is the right person before they release info to the public. Also if the person is a kid there are even more protections in place.

callous?

She’s a cunt

Backpfeifengesicht?

I’m just enjoying watching the conservative party eat themselves alive. They are all trying to out racist each other, while at the same time condemning the racists for being racist. It’s pretty spectacular mental gymnastics, they should win a medal.

No need to be a dick about it, plenty of nice people live here.

I don’t think free speech covers actual lies, and misinformation.

While I agree that this is a win overall, even in the US there are limits to free speech; you can’t falsely yell fire in a crowded theatre, threaten an individual with bodily harm, or incite others to do so, without any risk of repercussion.

Individualist ideas of freedom and rights are not as useful to a functioning society as collective freedom and rights.

Freedom to incite a violent attack against a marginalized group isn’t a useful kind of freedom.

Individualists seem not to get this idea.

Should I be allowed to feed rabid folks misinformation to encourage them to murder you and your family, with no repercussions? Yes or no, please no long winded diatribes.

“Ali Al-Shakati was the suspect, he was an asylum seeker who came to the UK by boat last year…” Does not read like restating a rumor

She says she read it on another post and reposted it, adding in the “if this is true”. She deleted her tweet later on and said that people should’ve been doing their own fact-checking, a comment I found a bit rich considering that she didn’t fact-check before making her own post.

The UK doesn’t have the same freedom of speech as the US, no 1st ammendment. So it very well could be illegal there, Idk.

She should’ve checked before spreading hateful lies then, will not lose sleep over this.