• Semi-Hemi-Lemmygod@lemmy.world
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    It’s one thing to mock it on pseudonymous platforms like Reddit and the fediverse.

    It’s another to do it somewhere linked to your real name and job like LinkedIn.

    People really hate insurance companies.

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      Don’t do it under your names folks, regime will be making lists based on this.

      They are scared and they will lash out.

      With that being said, fuck that parasite.

      FAFO

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        You think having a fake online name will stop them from finding out who you are? Did you even pay attention to the Snowden leaks?

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          Make them spend more resources doing deanonymizations. First they have to get the IP from instance admins, then trace the tor routing, then the VPN that I use, then ask for my ISP. Make them do all that work.

          (Or maybe they already have access by simply activating their backdoors within Intel ME, AMD PSP, and whatever baseband backdoor on the phones they have, and have just gotten everyone’s real identities in an instant, we can’t know for sure.)

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            They also have backdoors in most implementations of TLS, according to a person I know who worked government security.

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              I work in cryptography, and I guarantee if that’s true “some person you know who worked in government security” would not tell you if they did know, or they are pulling shit out of their ass. There have been so many people that have looked at or worked on SSL/TLS implementations (including some of my coworkers), any vulnerabilities would have to be pretty subtle or clever, and that would be kept highly classified. Quit making shit up or repeating bullshit you heard.

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                Sure, if we’re talking about code vulnerabilities only. It’s most likely a compromised root cert though.

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                  That just would allow a malicious attacker to fake being the server, it doesn’t actually compromise the TLS session. So you are talking about a much more sophisticated multi stage attack that needs to be actively executed. This wouldn’t at all allow them to record traffic and decrypt later.

                  The certs authenticate that you are talking to the real server, the symmetric session keys that are usually derived from a diffie helman key exchange have nothing to do with certs. That’s two separate (but connected) parts of the transaction to build a TLS session.

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              It wouldn’t be impossible. There are like so many different certificate issuers, any one of them collaborating with a government would allow them to create a certificate that would be accepted by your browser.

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        They already have lists. The only hope we have is to stand together in solidarity as the working class against the billionaire capitalists entering power.

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          i was talking about people commenting on linkedin actually…

          nor did I suggest reddit is anon, but aint you aint got provide your full name and address.

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      LinkedIn is one of the least sane social media sites I’ve ever had the displeasure of using. Under all the marketing BS and obviously fake feel good stories lie takes that would make your insane Facebook uncle blush.

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      People are too hung up about anonimity on the internet. When one of my country’s worst journalistic shitrags mandated a real name policy due to the rampant racism and other -isms in the comment section of their articles… nothing changed. People are happily spewing the same vile rethoric as before and proud to, instead of being shamed into silence.

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    Stop struggling and accept that lots of people are ok with advocating violence against evil people.

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      I’m curious how many of those opposing the current trend would agree with statements as simple as “It is a good thing that Adolf Hitler, author of the blitzkrieg and holocaust that killed millions of people, is dead.”

      Like, I get that anytime Hitler comes up, a part of our mind sorts it into exaggerated allegory. But he was a real person, who existed - and, if he hadn’t died in mysterious circumstances, it would be up to Berlin’s invaders to decide what to do with him.

      And, speaking honestly, would giving him an extensive trial and then spend the rest of his life in prison, able to spread his ideology and beliefs to other prisoners, be any better?

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      I mean, I don’t have a problem with people advocating violence against evil people.

      But being happy or laughing does seem pretty tactless and frankly gross.

      Death and violence may be necessary in many instances but it should never be glorified or celebrated, simply accepted.

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    I’ve been pretty impressed that the shooter has so far evaded police. I can only imagine that there have been at least one or two incidents thus far where people, be it cops or witnesses, had a clear opportunity to take actions that would lead to his immediate capture, but decided not to.

    From what I know, cops often rely on the cooperation of the public to resolve crimes, but they may not be getting any on this one.

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    What I like about this moment is that the people who ought to be fearful are indeed the ones who are fearful. I mean shit, Elon is posting Tweets about how great CEOs are actually, health insurance companies are removing pages from their websites that identify leadership, it’s a lovely little pocket of schadenfreude where we can all take a breath and prepare for the next 4 years.

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      I like the idea that they’ve got billions of dollars, but will have to live in a windowless bunker eating beans.

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        They couldn’t even hunker down in their mansions for two weeks of Covid lockdown.

        They like to fantasize about it, but the reality of living like that will hit them fast.

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      These parasites know that we got numbers on our side and we permit their rule by and large…

      I don’t think this corp of owners realize that plebs can turn on a dime, they got too comfortable. This is a wake up call.

      Having their goon wacked like this got to make them feels a certain way hehe

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        I hope there’s a copycat to reinforce the lesson very soon, or they’ll write this off as a one off.

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      Ive got bullets with words on them and bullets without. But I’m all outta bullets without words on them

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    “United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson’s final KD ratio (7,652,103:1) lands him among the all time greats,” a thread deleted by r/interestingasfuck moderators said.

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    Good, the spineless hand wringing bootlicking fucking scumbags are losing. Wonderful to see.

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        They do this to divide and conquer. It’s a ploy to take the attention from billionaires at the moment and focus on left and right politics

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        They are afraid… for now there are no killer robots protecting them… But they sure try.

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          Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

          That’s a bipartisan message every working class American can get behind

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        nope. the right is celebrating too. going by the Facebook post alone, the population of which should already lean right, implying that the left:right ratio is 60:2 is stupid, though not too stupid for a fucking troglodyte.

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      not losing anytime soon, just slightly annoyed, like letting the tip of the towel hit the wet floor

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    Serious? People are reacting with laughing emojis? Really?

    😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
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    Man, this shit just keeps being funny. The longer it stays funny, the better it affects all involved.

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      Fuck the media for treating this murder as super important. This is something that only wealthy elites care about.

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        But if the media didn’t blew it up so much, we wouldn’t get all these memes.

        Its the Streisand in full effect.

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        Im only respond to your words: that only wealthy elites care about. Pedant warning. By responding you are agreeing to a very narrow discussion. Thank you for engaging this point of contention if you choose to do so.

        This is inaccurate. my proof is that I know people who are unhappy with the mob mentality around murder being okay. People who dont even make as much as i do, and while i consider myself poor, i recognize im above my areas minimum wage. Additonally I am not a wealthy elite and care about this to the degree that it could be a problem for us non elites if things go badly

        I personally midly concerned about what problems this might be showing us. Im not in a position to address or research them and dont claim that what i can see might happen is going to happen. Im opposed to people basing significant hardline stances on unproven and or untested assumptions and predictions. But I do see, without much difficulty or effort, how mobs and pitchforks are rarely proven to be acting on good faith rationality.

        So all im asking here is for you to contemplate why you were comfortable making such an easily arguable word choice and if you could be more precise in the future when you really are passionate about an argument you are making.

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          Okay but why is the media treating this as more important than every other murder? It’s not. That’s what people are mad about. If anything, it is less important, since the motivation is something that not a threat to the general public.

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    I couldn’t help but notice Blue Cross rescinded its very dangerous policy placing a time limit on anesthesia the day after the murder.

    I don’t want a reign of terror, but perhaps just a little bit of terror will have CEOs thinking they could be next when considering especially harmful policies.

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    On the 4th of July, American’s don’t celebrate that British soldiers were killed, we celebrate the society we won in the process.

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      You think the “shot heard round the world” didn’t hit someone?

      We have to start somewhere and celebrate the early battles as well as the war’s outcome

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      When the war was still going on, they probably did celebrate the number of enemy killed.

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      Can we crowdfund this, and provide a crypto bounty as reward for targets, including politicians, in the same way there was a reward for information on the shooter?

      This would be to let those who step out of line know how much disdain there is for any of them in particular at any given moment, and the rewards can be split as needed.

      The proletariat needs alternative systems of leverage.

      This is for my Purge sequel screenplay, of course. One can dream.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Bell

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      When society gets to the point where you will die if you don’t do anything … or you will die if you do something …

      Eventually people realize that they will be punished, threatened or endangered no matter what they do or don’t do, some people will come to the conclusion that they would rather go down fighting.

      If you’re going to get screwed doing nothing, some would rather go out on a blaze of glory because they no longer have anything to lose.

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        I am assuming that when this guy is caught, what we will find out is that his wife had cancer and died from it and they refused to honor their claims or something like that.

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          Hopefully it doesn’t come to that, and he just never gets caught.

          If he does, it’s gonna be one hell of a gofundme campaign for his defense.

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              I legit think the state/oligarchy will kill him silently. Taking it to trial and giving this guy a voice could make things so much worse for them. They’re afraid of creating a robin hood, and class solidarity; of giving the working class a hero and cause to rally around.

              They’re so close to creating a robot army that can suppress the masses. They just have to bide their time until revolution is impossible.

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                I legit think the state/oligarchy will kill him silently.

                Wouldn’t that backfire though?

                Won’t more people start thinking “So this guy killed a really important CEO and apparently never got caught nor faced repercussions… you know what…”

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                If I was him id be in the Appalachians camping by now with no internet or cell connected devices. Id just wait a month or two and move all of my shit out of new york, mind you he may not even be a New Yorker he could be Californian for all we know.

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                Oh, I’m almost certain that they would primarily because they would not want him having money to fight a legal battle.

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                  He won’t be paying for it in either case, someone will pick this up pro-bono.

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          Dealing with insurance with a nonfatal chronic illness can also be infuriating. You have to keep fighting the same battle over and over and over again.

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          Or perhaps himself dying of a treatable disease they refused to pay for. He’ll be a hero either way, the question is how much.

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        Falling Down was in my head this week. The number of people in the US that are close to it is so high, it’s barely fringe. Ironically Trump might just trigger a revolution when he tries to clamp down.

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        According to the media, he made a lot of very amateur mistakes if that’s the case. Like leaving a water bottle and granola bar wrappers and being filmed on camera at a Starbucks.

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          Leaving the DNA behind doesn’t really identify him if his DNA is not in the system.

          But nowadays the odds some relative of yours put theirs up on some family tree site is pretty high so they could narrow the suspect pool quite a bit going that route.

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            His DNA doesn’t need to be in any system. These days there are professionals that take DNA results and comb through the databases to find close relatives that are in the system. It’s how they caught the BTK Killer.

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          Has the Starbucks guy actually been confirmed as the same person? It looked like clearly a different jacket and backpack, I assumed that was either an accomplice or just an unfortunate lookalike, but I suppose he could have changed or it could just be odd lighting tricks.