Clearly they just need to take their own advice:
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No more avocado toast
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Stop buying so much coffee out. Make it at home.
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???
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Profit.
Simple as.
Also they could just get an easy job at McDonald’s???
They just arent qualified for that job.
Maybe they could try an unpaid internship to get experience first
Boot straps. Don’t forget about the boot straps.
They could eat the bootstraps.
Trumps plan is to fix obesity by making everyone too poor to eat… Or something
Don’t forget about the cell phone plan, Internet access, Netflix or large screen TVs. I remember reading about “boomer math”, if I remember correctly - the skewed notion about what really costs what.
Used to be a color TV was a luxury, and that probably made a real imprint on some. Same for coffee - until Starbucks really cracked that market, the idea of paying more than fifty cents or whatever for a cup of coffee was considered ludicrous at one time. And things like cell phones, Netflix and Internet were not really things in their formative years…
I just saw the Costco flyer for this week and they had a 75" LG TV on sale for like $599. I couldn’t believe how cheap TVs are now.
Exactly. I think once they started monetizing the data from “smart” TVs, they really, really fell through the floor. And yeah, compare that to memories of the 60s or 70s when a mere color TV of any size was a big deal and definitely a luxury item for the rich and adjust for inflation…in 1965, say, $599 would be $59.13…so if you imprinted on that in your twenties, I could see how that might be hard to understand the delta…
See the prices for a 23"-25" color TV in 1965 - $1800-$2000. That’d be $18,233 - $20,259 in today’s dollars…so if someone is doing “boomer math” when chastising people for buying huge TVs, and claiming that’s the reason they cannot afford a house/rent, I can sort of get it, but it’s also just a one-time cost…and they really need to update their thinking.
Maybe they could have remembered to not trust everything they see on the internet for the past decade.
Oh! And learn some basic financial literacy!
Can’t just rely on someone else to make all your decisions for you =D
Time to start by brushing up on some basic math, its not like everyone will always have a calculator in their pocket.
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It’s ok everyone they will all be a lot better off once manufacturing comes back to the US, they can make up the difference by working in a local sweatshop.
Didn’t you hear? Vance is saying that manufacturing is never coming back to the US.
So even working in a sweatshop won’t be an option. Well, I guess until we’re colonized.
Suppose it does come back, who is going to buy it ?
Once wages undercut China, they can sell stuff to the Chinese.
They don’t want that crap though, nobody does. Who are they going to sell crap to, nobody wants it.
But we don’t have any manufacturing capabilities
And even if we did, the Dipshit put tariffs on the raw materials any factories would need to actually make stuff. He literally made shit more expensive to make here.
What gets me is that these morons think domestically manufactured products will somehow be cheaper that their imported counterparts. The entire reason we’ve come to rely on imports is because they’re cheaper than the domestic variant, almost entirely because American corporations are notoriously greedy shitbags. It’s ridiculous to think that since imports are going to cost significantly more that American corps are going to suddenly find a conscience and charge anything remotely resembling a reasonable price for their goods/services. Even with possible breakthroughs in automation and “AI” (lol), the owner class is guaranteed to use that to enrich themselves at the cost of the rest of us.
Yeah, just hold on and wait for those low paying, low skilled manufacturing jobs that no one really wants to work, and that we don’t have logistics in place to support.
Then you can make minimum wage working 12 hour shifts with no pension and a 401k that will flatline right before you can retire.
When you die next to the assembly line they’ll cover your face with a red MAGA hat right before they wheel you to the Soylent green processing facility
The elderly yearn for the assembly lines.
Even that chucklefuck billionaire was talking about how it will be all robots - openly. Meaning, I don’t know how many sweatshop jobs will be on offer 5, 10, 15 years or whatever it takes to build that kind of infrastructure here…
https://www.axios.com/2025/04/03/tech-jobs-robots-lutnick-manufacturing-renaissance
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“But… but… but at least we stuck it to the libs didn’t we? Right?.. Right!!!”
Gosh darn it!
That’s exactly what happened with this lady.
Wait, I thought this was the plan…what happened? You mean dipshit game show host who bankrupted so many businesses doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing?
But it’s so worth it when you remember that he ended all that DEI stuff and stopped those two trans kids from playing women’s sports.
Over two trillion has been wiped out. That’s one trillion dollars per trans kid.
Is America great again yet?
Since inauguration it’s $11 trillion.
Okay, now do it in Count von Count’s voice.
Toooo manie trillyon. Ha ha ha
For a trillion dollars I’ll stop playing any sport you want.
That is really what it came down to for so very many of his base. They believe “go woke go broke” is a thing?
🤣 🤣
Their biggest problem was DEI and immigration. Now its gonna be their second biggest problem. 🙂
inb4 ‘the transes groomed the stock market, somehow’
Well, if you voted for these dumbasses and are now pikachu over how idiotic they actually are…hard to feel sorry for you.
BTW, if you say “I didn’t vote for that”…YES YOU DID. It’s not like donvict was quiet about his love for tariffs.
I mean, I know quite a few retirees who actively voted for his opponent. So I wouldn’t feel right saying that THEY voted for it, no? However, around my area, they definitely are a minority in their age group, so I think statistically speaking you are probably going to be right most of the time.
Oh, of course. I don’t think anyone DESERVES to live in destitution - and this is probably where progressives like me get made fun of, but it’s just how I was raised - even if they voted for donvict.
My lizard brain immediately wants to condemn people that were told not to vote against their own interest, but did anyway because of their hate of wokeness and DEI or whatever the hell. However, though I do rant here and elsewhere, I ultimately have compassion for people, even if it’s from their own actions…
As for those that voted against donvict, of course they don’t deserve it, though I know it’s now quite fashionable to dunk on “boomers” as if they are some monolithic block and that means every single one of them, to a person has caused the Republicans to get worse and worse. Personally, I believe this thinking is goaded on by elites, because it only divides us further…in addition to racism, xenophobia, transphobia, if you can whip up the various age groups and pit them against one another, you can sit back and count your money and be comforted in the notion that few people will cop to the reality…
I agree that we shouldn’t let the oligarchs divide us, and that there are boomers that haven’t been voting towards oligarchy for the past 60 years. But, at the same time, I have a hard time giving any boomers a pass because I think they didn’t fight hard enough. The vast majority of them stuck their heads in the sand and stayed there for most of their relatively comfortable lives. They let their government slide further and further towards oligarchy and didn’t talk about it because talking politics was considered uncouth… Or because they’re religious and “this earth isn’t our eternal home anyways”, or some other hand-wavy bullshit. It’s very hard for me to not feel betrayed by their collective ignorance and ineptitude.
I guess we’ll see if any other generation is different than they are/were. I somehow doubt it. I don’t see Gen X or Gen Y doing all that much. Too early to tell for Gen Z and alpha, I think…I think it’s human nature.
The boomers that I knew growing up mostly lived hand to mouth. My parents were boomers and I don’t really remember them being all that comfortable. They lived a very meager existence, lived extremely frugally (I think it was generational trauma in my own family coming from the Great Depression and my grandparents on both sides) and saved as much as possible. They took almost no vacations and they were some of the first ecominded people. They were leftists (of the older type), not so much the hippie type, and most of their friends were, too. I sure as hell know they wanted nothing to do with the Republicans and the ones that are still alive despise donvict.
So, I think it varies. People born in a certain age group are definitely not a monolith. Not every boomer went to Woodstock and then later did a heel-turn and went all-in on the Reaganites and became a Wall street trader yuppie…as much as that is the common stereotype.
Yea my boomer mom was a teacher most of her life and barely made enough to raise 2 kids. that’s usually who I think of when people are talking shit about Rich boomers hoarding wealth 😂
Well yes, there are outliers. My grandma was one of them. She participated in countless protests throughout her life, starting with the civil rights movements in the 60’s, and never stopped. She was part of the group that stopped the keystone pipeline from stealing people’s land in Texas. She was an amazing woman, may she RIP.
My point is, there wasn’t enough like her among boomers. There were, of course, plenty of boomers that didn’t have it easy. I too was raised in poverty and have known boomers who struggled. But, by and far, the boomers believed in the “American dream”, and even the ones who were struggling believed things could turn around for them eventually. The majority of them bought into or allowed reaganomics, propaganda, and blatant emperialism to thrive under their watch.
The difference I’m seeing in people below the age of 40 is that we talk politics openly, and we know who the bad guys are (the billionaires and their lackeys). We know that the billionaire’s, and their corporations, have been extracting our wealth for decades, that healthcare and higher education are scams, that we can’t trust anything the establishment media says. Even the younger right wing people know this stuff, the’ve just bought into the propaganda channels on TikTok and YouTube. But, I think the demographics have truly shifted in that the amount of people buying into the propaganda is no longer the majority. Young people actually are waking up, which is why we’re seeing all of these truth-to-power movements like BLM, quiet quitting, and “cancel culture”. These movements are growing despite major resistance from the establishment. Mostly because, those of us below 40 feel the effects of the status quo the hardest. They’ve extracted so much from us that we have nothing left to lose. We just need the older generations to fucking listen for a change, and stop fighting us at the polls every time. And we need young people to realize they can work around their work schedules with early voting. I’ve spent much of my adult life working 60 to 80 hour work weeks and I’ve voted in every federal and local election of the past decade. There’s really no excuse to not properly educate yourself on current politics and vote. Congress.gov and cspan are great resources for unfiltered information. Use them!
Sorry for the rant, OP, that last bit wasn’t directed at you. xD
The difference I’m seeing in people below the age of 40 is that we talk politics openly, and we know who the bad guys are (the billionaires and their lackeys). We know that the billionaire’s, and their corporations, have been extracting our wealth for decades, that healthcare and higher education are scams, that we can’t trust anything the establishment media says.
Again I’m just thinking about publications like Mother Earth News and so on. My memories of the boomers is that they seemed to talk politics, and talk a LOT about it. Many dropped out of the fight and became yuppies, I guess. Some continued to fight. Some mellowed out and gave up I guess - turned inward and became “pillow sitters” as I’ve heard them described and just working on their own enlightenment or whatever.
I don’t know. I guess my point is that we’ll see if it’s any different with subsequent generations. At one point, I thought Gen X might be even more fiery than the boomers because we were far more fucked than they ever were, and right from the jump. That turned out not to be the case. I personally don’t think it will be any different with Y or Z or alpha. Things might be even MORE blunted because you have more ways to blunt mass movements than ever before - far more distractions, far more ways to keep people isolated and atomized than the system ever had before.
Yeah, same here. Well said, I agree with you
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Having lived in the shadow of “boomers” all my life, I’m rather bemused by the story arc they took - when I was very young, they were being castigated by the culture as being a bunch of idealistic, hippy-dippy dumbasses that didn’t know how “real life” worked. Most of this coming from MSM, mind you, and still controlled by the older generation. Then, when the 80s really came along, I remember lots of common tropes where some Gen X kid/teen is winking at the audience about the “60s leftovers” and how much more savvy the kid/teen is than their hippie drug-addled idealistic parents or whatever - often a nod to Reaganite sensibilities.
Then as Gen X started coming into their own, they mostly seemed to be grumbling about how they wanted to have their day in the sun, but by the time they left high school/university, the American Dream was already crushed for the boomers and also by the boomer “sellouts”, so what hope did our generation really have?
Then, later, once the culture mostly shifted to Gen Y, the MSM narrative seemed to pit boomers vs. Gen Y and paint the boomers as these extreme far-right reactionaries that ruined everything for everyone?
That’s quite an arc…and this is coming from someone that does hold a bit of a grudge for 1) Missing the 60s and being way to young in the 70s to appreciate a lot of the cultural things that happened. 2) having to live most of my life in a culture where nearly all of it seemed to be about the 60s generation holding up a mirror to their own generation and struggling to free themselves from the Silent Generation/Greatest Generations, even into their 40s and 50s and beyond. So very much of the movies/TV that I grew up with was about catering to boomers…we had a small window with that “brat pack” thing, and then a few indie movies aimed at/made by our “slacker generation”, but so many other movies were still about boomers, ultimately, even during that phase…like Forrest Gump.
Only to see this repeat with Gen Y - I’m already watching them go through similar nostalgia phases that the boomers seemed to go through. It will be interesting to see if they have a very similar arc…
Thank you. This is really well expressed!
They did say when they were exporting all the jobs to China that the stock market will do amazingly well, while skeptics were more concerned about jobs and unions. It really blurs the line between the left and the right when the left is complaining about a shrinking 401k while applauding the rich like Musk getting poorer.
You keep saying retirees when I think you mean future walmart door greeters.
My fucking parents are going to end up Wal-Mart greeters and they will not admit, even after everything, that they fucked up voting for Trump.
It’s obviously Biden’s and Obama’s fault, they made the stocks go so high in the first place! Not only does that mean they could buy fewer, but it also means they fall more!
oh that reminds me, our local old lady Walmart greeter passed away 😔
R.I.P. Ms Wendy
“Last season’s winners”
“No. Last season’s losers”
Don’t let them fool u by saying that this is just a correction. A correction needs a catalyst. The catalyst here is the tarriff. Trump created this mess. Rise up. Fight.
Turns out woke wasn’t so bad, huh
I can only have an opinion when Fox News informs me of the new outrageous fad for this week.
Oh no, are the Boomers finally collectively suffering the consequences of their own collective actions?
What a shame.
Anyway, welcome to the ‘you can never retire or afford a house’ club along with all your children who’ve been begging you for the past 20 years to stop voting for policies and politicians who made this current situation inevitable.
This is not a good time to hate on Boomers.
https://www.thecivicscenter.org/blog/youth-voting-in-2024-election
White voters over age 65 supported Harris stronger than white voters 30-45. The most pro Trump group was white voters age 45-65.
… The boomers have majority supported Republicans … for the last 20 years.
Which I specifically mentioned.
Your own source shows:
50-64 at a 56 to 43 for Trump
65+ tied at 49 to 49Wonderful, great, a few of them finally realized that maybe now that they actually need Social Security and they want to actually draw from their 401ks… after majority supporting 401ks over unions+pensions for 20 years.
How typical. A few of them finally figured out maybe spending 20 years supporting corporate profligacy and then betting their retirements on the stock market … is bad, when the obvious problem with a stock market based retirement plan… actually looks like/is actually happening, to them, personally.
You are bringing race into this. I did not.
If you purely go by age alone, which is how you actually define a Boomer…
30-39 (16%) is 50 to 46, Harris.
40-49 (16%) is 48 to 50, Trump.
They are neatly both 16% of the total sample, so…
30-49 is 49 to 48, Harris.
Wonderful, younger Millenials to younger to mid GenX went for Harris by a point.
But I am not talking about them, I am talking about Boomers, over the last 20 years of their existence.
A tiny bit of the older ones shifted course after it was too late to undo what their disproportionately large, wealthy, and influential generational cohort has supported for 20 years.
I guess ‘they’ll be sorry/regret their decisions when they’re older’, another common boomerism often directed toward anyone younger than them that makes a life choice or holds a worldview they disagree with.
This is a perfect time to laugh at Boomers collectively.
They got what they said they wanted, and only now, after its all too late, did they almost, but not quite, flip over to ‘this is not what i wanted.’
If this isn’t clear, obviously not all boomers individually deserve this scorn, but uh, collectively… they do.
What do you mean “collectively”
Would you accept responsibility for somebody else’s actions because they were born within the same arbitrary block of years as you?
I mean collectively by collectively.
Different groups with different specific membership criteria, different descriptive attributes… often, in general, tend to behave differently.
Try writing a history book involving dynamics and differences between groups that doesn’t involve this. Or a medical study. Or a psychological study.
Statistics is the art of going from an unfounded stereotype or complete guess to an actually valid characterization of specified groups according to descriptive parameters.
Of course… these are general descriptors of a group, and do not accurately and perfectly describe every member of a group.
No, I wouldn’t personally accept responsibility for something a bunch of people my age did… but I would accept that it would be reasonable for other people who didn’t know me personally but just knew my age group to make certain reasonable assumptions about me that are actually borne out my the data.
Of course, one should always just have that as a kind of background knowledge and not judge every single book you meet by its cover, you should read the contents of their character if you want to really know them.
But at the same time, that is very time consuming to do with… literally everyone, so it is useful to have basic guidelines for what to expect from certain kinds of people, but not actually judge them or act toward them in a prejudiced way untill they specifically, individually confirm or disconfirm their sameness or difference from your preconceived notion.
Like uh… I am a millenial, and I know it is statistically valid for me to assume myself and other millenials have actual, comprehensive computer troubleshooting skills than boomers or zoomers.
I know a boomer is more likely to be a big Led Zeppelin fan, and a zoomer is more likely to be a fan of whateve is on Lo-fi girl… and I know that millenials are more likely to still be using the term ‘doggo’ and ‘chonker’ unironically, as well as think that the dialogue in the Borderlands games is cool.
Do I use doggo and chonker? Yeah, you got me, I still do sometimes.
Do I think Borderlands style, ‘Millenial writing’ is good? Fuck no, I hate that shit, bounced off those games half for the bullet spongy gameplay I just didn’t like (Im much more of a realism/tac shooter/milsim kinda guy when it comes to gunplay) and half for the character writing that I found to be just fucking awful, rude, crass, annoying, self-important, cringe inducing.
I did like the art style though.
But anyway: I would not be surprised if someone just knew my age, that I like video games and am a dork, didn’t know me beyond that, and then kinda assumed I was into Borderlands for the writing. I would be miffed if they were 100% convinced of this and acted as if it was true without ever actually asking me, but if they did ask, I wouldn’t be offended by the question.
I ain’t reading all that
Excellently stated. Thank you.
“The leopards ate my face”
Only if they voted for Trump. Many didn’t. This election saw a lot more young people, especially men, move to the Republicans. In fact if you want to blame a specific demographic then blame men.
I dont want to blame a specific demographic because that would be a stupid thing to do
I blame the non voters.
When more people vote Democrats tend to win.
If everyone voted the Republican party wouldn’t exist.
I think the blame rest solely on the 78 million people or so that showed up to vote for Donald Trump. And maybe the 40 million or so people that didn’t show up to vote at all.
You can double that second figure.
"How Many People Didn’t Vote?
Close to 90 million.
According to data from the University of Florida Election Lab, approximately 245 million Americans were eligible to vote in the 2024 general election…
preliminary election data shows about 155 million ballots were cast. This would mean an estimated 89 million Americans, or about 36% of the country’s voting-eligible population, did not vote in the 2024 general election."
Yeah it’s definitely not the system that prevents those people from learning critical thinking skills and encourages them to vote explicitly against their own interests, pitting them against each other as they work themselves to death
Blaming the death cult of capitalism 🚫
Victim blaming 👍
You’re not the victim. We paid for 12 years of your schooling and you shit the bed in Math, history, critical thinking, and most importantly Civic duty. Since we our way past acknowledging our individual civic duty to protect democracy I say…
COMMUNIST REVOLUTION WEN?
Lol. Do you assume that shit about everyone you talk to or just people who disagree with you
Edited to add: this schooling? 12 years of this? Thanks a LOT 🖕 https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2017/02/15/u-s-students-internationally-math-science/
Edit 2: super thanks for this BTW love your work on this https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/school-shootings-by-country
Edit 3: i didn’t even claim to be the victim, although I certainly am a victim of capitalism as someone with multiple disabilities that are almost certainly caused by environmental factors present as a result of the unending evil behavior from corporations (including the USG) and many other problems that are inflicted upon me by these systems including artificial scarcity and my rights being whittled down year after year. The victims I was saying you’re blaming are the ~120 million people you explicitly blamed for what is being done to our country and our population and the rest of the world by a few extremely rich and powerful assholes, most of which are almost certainly not responsible for any appreciable fraction of harm being done (relative to what is happening at a massive scale) right before our eyes by those same assholes. By the way, since you’re so upset about what’s happening (according to what you’re saying) what are you doing to counter it? I’m sure it’s more than just spreading your garbage takes on Lemmy right?
Is this system here in this room with us now?
Yet even more GenZ men just didn’t vote because they hated both options
Bit of a tactical blunder, that.
I’m sure they’ll be quick to blame “boomers” for it, though.
It’s almost like this is exactly what we warned them would happen.
I just took a couple Ubers. They were driven by retirees as a way to make a little extra cash and get out of the house. Both of them said they would have to quit driving and get another “real” job again if the market continued to tank. This shit rolls downhill…gonna create a job crunch again. People not leaving jobs, no jobs for people entering the marketplace, and companies are going to start crushing labor’s wages and benefits again.
Maybe that IS the end goal. Get old people working so wages get fucked for everyone and the corporate overlords can increase their profit margins from a measly 99% to 99.9% or whatever
And what’s the end goal? What’s their plan for when those old people die in a fiery crash while driving Doordash? Nobody’s having kids anymore and immigration ain’t happening so who’s gonna take those jobs?
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Doesn’t matter to them, the rich are isolated from any real repercussions of their behaviours. The older ones probably think they’ll be out of the game before things get worse anyway. Short term benefits for them are worth the long term issues for the rest of us, just as always.
Automation, once the population is too small to cover the jobs.
And who’s gonna buy this stuff when nobody has a job?
The true end game is for us poors to all die off and then there’s a lot less need for production, and fewer mouths to feed.
It’s all moving towards that.
If this doesn’t belong here, nothing does.
Every day, I’m further grasping just how fucked we are :)
Lol, I rolled my 401k to an IRA as part of a actively managed fidelity fund right after Trump got inaugurated. If I hadn’t I would be down about 150k, instead I’m up 35k already, and that was after cashing out just below all time high.
That said,I decided to ride it out in my fuck around E-Trade account. I went from being up 25k on jan 1st to being down 9k today.
Trump’s ‘plan’ is to crash the market so that people with large reserves of cash can buy at all time low. Then he’ll back pedal his bullshit and things will go up, so they’ll sell. It’s not going to go back up to what it was before his watch, at least not with him around. People who don’t have the cash reserves/appetite to buy in a recession will get fucked, and that’s most people in the country
Yeah but you can’t just say “ok the plan worked, tariffs are off now” and expect the rest of the world to be chill about that. It’s too late to backpedal.
If the rest of the world turns on the US then that’s also a win because Krasnov is a Russian asset and part of why Russia and China worked so hard to get him elected was to destabilize the US and remove them as the world leader so China can step in
I really don’t think this is part of some grander plan. I think he really thinks blanket tariffs are a good idea.
Tariff man is an idiot.
Oh well, should have raised your kids to be better people.
