“Fox viewers are stupid” should hardly be news to anyone by now.
I’m pretty sure “Spice Melange” is trolling. Idk how someone would understand and enjoy the plot of Dune (assuming the book because IDK if they even used that term in the movies) with this poor of an understanding of how trade works.
They might be trolling, but right wingers are notoriously bad a media literacy.
One of the book details not carried through to the movie is the Baron’s plan to put Rabban in charge initially to fuck shit up and make everybody hate him, and then hand Arrakis over to Feyd-Rautha who would seem like a savior since he (supposedly) wouldn’t be as big of a dick as Rabban. Trump-to-Vance may have a similar arc.
There is a whole SouthPark episode about Tom Bradys poop where they repetitively use the term.
They definitely used the term in the Lynch movie, but if you can follow that plot you may be even smarter than a reader of the book heh
The cheatsheets they handed out in theaters in 1984 helped lol.
That’s awesome, I want to see one of these cheatsheets now
Edit: I just found a pic of one of the cheatsheets online and it was a little underwhelming, but I still love that they made it.
I should take a look at it. When I saw the movie in theaters, I contemptuously threw mine away without looking at it as I’d read all the books.
He who controls the Spice controls the Universe.
This person very clearly understands what is happening, hence the second sentence. It’s just phrased in a way to not immediately cause magas to engage in their rejecting of reality at the site of criticism.
I think more people need to approach it like this. Human’s minds are designed to think with their group and resistant to change. If you actually want to change minds, insults and accusations will immediately put them into fight mode and they will defend their ideology. But if you don’t attack their ideals and approach in a friendly kind of way, it will lead them to questioning their leader’s choices. It’s hard, I know. Their leader has made some shoot-themselves-in-the-foot choices and makes their conviction an easy target to attack. Insults and attacks may even be a way of letting off steam, but if you actually want change, it has to be a smart and kinder approach. It won’t be an immediate change, but it will be gradual and large over time.
We tried being reasonable for decades and that didn’t work becsuse they want to believe the propaganda they comsume. We won’t win them over by being kinder. That only works on reasonable people who care about facts.
They can go fuck themselves.
You’re not wrong, “Being reasonable” can be saying “you are wrong! And here’s why…” and as you said, that doesn’t work. And kindness doesn’t work either. I suggest we be less confrontational when trying to help them understand other views. It’s hard and nuisanced. It’s like saying “I’m not against you, but you’re choices and support are not working the way you think they are”, but in a clever way that isn’t so obvious.
Yeah, fuck these guys that are trampling over human right… but like, I also would like change to happen. Being reasonable and kind isn’t working. Neither is aggression.
And this attitude will only continue to cement their position against reason…congrats, you have fucked yourself
We tried being reasonable for decades and that didn’t work
Inviting the individual while painting them all with a broad brush is not helpful. Individuals can be reached.
You’re right. Addressing the group doesn’t work. So stop doing that.
Well, i mean, someone has to and i have no other applicants, at the moment.
They are quite literally in a cult.
The cognitive dissonance underlying their worldview is being exposed and demonstrated, and they are very obviously unable to fully reconcile basic logic and empirical reality with the idea that dear leader is a madman, and that they are cult thralls of a madman, and that he is doing exactly what he said he would do, and that they are fools for trusting in him.
Delusional cult members do not have coherent, consistent worldviews, they are full of contradictions, which are usually squelched by thought terminating cliches, highly emotional motivated reasoning (ie, ‘faith’), having your own identity and personality be heavily intertwined with and dependant on the cult.
They would have to be deprogrammed like former Heavens Gate cult members or something similar.
Their minds will likely never function reasonably again. While some may be able to pull themselves out of it, similar to someone raised in a fundamentalist setting who deconverts via thorough critical skepticism… most of them are not capable of that, and will instead seek to blame shift to protect their own egos.
… Thats all to say, this person seemingly logically putting it together… but also not accepting their own logic?
This is quite normal for a cult member.
Lots and lots of cults do lots and lots of social conditioning to make the cult member accept or ignore or deflect from any objective criticisms.
That is basically what all religious apologetics is, after all.
There’s been studies that far right fascist supports have a smaller “empathy” section to their brain. You have to know how to approach soaking to someone like that. They only care about stuff when it affects them. In order to reach these people, you need to highlight that these things ARE hurting them, and it will continue to get worse.
You are describing most of my family.
I have degrees in Econ and Poli Sci.
I explained everything to them, how it would hurt them, in detail, for years.
Didn’t work.
I now live many states away from them, seeing as the last time I talked to my dad he was full QAnon bonkers, and also building ghost guns (untraceable AR 15s and AR 18s) in his garage.
Logic doesn’t work when too much of their personal identity is wrapped into the cult identity.
Truly a sage.
It’s thyme.
Whereas the normal fox news viewers are a bunch of dill weeds.
Very thin ones though
I mean, the commenter is right. Both can be true. I’d even say both is true.
Trump is not understanding tariffs and is lying.
My bro in law sells boba tea supplies from Taiwan to all your favorite boba tea stores.
He had a container that he was about to send but cancelled it because his margin is less than 10% and his stores he supports also runs a lean margin.
Last week he decided to close one of his warehouses in Portland, letting go of 20 people and a few hundred stores that depend on him.
When asked why he doesn’t just up the price, he said that if he did, the mass majority of the stores he supports won’t make it and the Oregon warehouse is barely breaking even.
Funny thing about him is that he sat out this election and now he regrets it.
Funny thing about him is that he sat out this election and now he regrets it.
ouch, this always hurts. I choose to still have empathy with him, even if he did make a extremely stupid decision.
It’s not like it would’ve made a difference in Oregon. There’s like only a couple 100000 swing voters that really matter when it comes to the presidency. (Local issues might still make it worth coming out for tho).
Stupid? No. Selfish.
he sat out this election
No sympathy. Dumbass got what he voted for, that he didn’t care if Trump won and did exactly what he said he was going to do. So why the sudden change of heart? Selfish fuck only cares when it impacts him personally.
I have less than zero sympathy for your BIL.
tell him some random asshole on the Internet hopes he feels like a fucking idiot for the rest of his miserable life.
Did you ever ask him what policies or other actions the democrats could have taken to get his vote?
He said he honestly felt like the democrats weren’t listening to him. He’s a small business owner that is struggling and outside of AOC or Bernie, the democrats system wasn’t setting himself up for success.
Who cares. Fuck him.
Cost to US consumer is $0? What kind of economy would that be lmao
The economy of US propaganda where the US is so strong and either loved or feared and such an important market that everyone from all other countries will bow to them and ignore making a profit to appease the mighty Murica, because they are simply the greatest in the world.
Not to be confused with reality, where most of the world hates the US.
American Exceptionalism!
I saw a similar thing in Britain during the Leave Campaign - lots of arguments of the “when we’re out the EU will give us most of the rights members have, but without the obligations” kind, anchored only on British Exceptionalism, and enough people fell for it that Leave won.
Nationalist Delusions Of Grandeur is on hell of a drug.
The UK already had that when they were in, but that was apparently not a good enough deal for them.
Being an EU member comes with both Rights and Obligations and the objective was to have the former without the latter.
In fact the Referendum was done because the UK wanted to not to have to obbey the Freedom Of Movement rules for EU citizens entering its country (i.e. the Obligation) whilst keeping it for its citizens entering other EU countries (i.e. the Right) and was using the threat of holding a Leave Referendum to try and blackmail the rest of the EU, and the rest of the EU said “No!”
(This was actually just the later of a long series of instances of the British Government using that technique to get from the rest of the EU “exceptions” from the EU treaties, which went all the way back to Thatcher’s time and was how Britain had so many exceptions that nobody else had).
The British Exceptionalism part is that many Britons genuinelly expected they would get that (and also similarly for a lot of other Rights and Obligations, such as being able to import bleached chicken from the US at the same time as having open and uncontrolled access to the Free Market were such food products are forbidden) from the EU as part of the Leave Negotiations.
The UK was never part of the Schengen zone. You could not enter the UK from Europe without a passport.
Yes. The “exception” was that the UK could stay out of the Schengen zone.
They could have just gotten some regular chicken and sold it with a little bottle of bleach attached. They really didn’t have to resort to such dramatic measures. But that’s UK politics I suppose.
Indeed.
Like Marmite, nobody would have stopped them from selling whatever disgusting seasoning they favour on the side. It’s the having it pre-added that’s the problem!
Agree with most, but I would say the main reason the referendum was held because of domestic politics - Cameron was confident Remain would win, and wanted to shut up UKIP and the Eurosceptic wing of his own party.
I would say that either without the other would not have ended up in that Referendum being held.
Yearning for the 1950s when 70% of the world manufacturing base was rubble.
Gee look, they are orchastrating another world war where they can create those conditions again!
I feel like the comment is being sarcastic. Republicans would never admit the possibility of something negative about Trump.
I think that was pretty clear sarcasm. A lot of people hate read/comment on Fox News.
It’s amazing is how they also talk about the profit motive being king… but then toss that out the window when they think they are like old school overlords demanding tribute from their underlings…
Honestly the fact that this fake news got going makes no sense to me. If you even atop for a second to think about how tarrifs are collected you’d know this would never be the case
stop for a second to think
I think maybe I see the problem.
He built a wall and Mexico paid for it. They remember that clearly, so what he says 10 years later must be true. Anyone surprised maga people believing this is surprising. lol.
Trump complains that other countries have tariffs on the US. Yet no US manufacturer ever seems to have paid them. Odd that.
This is why debating or having any discussion with them is beyond worthless. If they have nothing. They will simply pull it out of their ass.
“Build the wall and Mexico will pay for it”
If the world had any sense Rupert Murdoch would be at the bottom of the ocean.
except he also has his son lachlan murdoch is controlling the reins of fox, hes worst than his father.
I mean Sony and Humble Bundle do actually push those price increases onto others. They maintain their prices in the US, but raise them in Europe. A Humble Bundle subscription now includes IGN??? I’m sure there are other examples.
The logical thing to do is of course boycotting the companies that do, but since I’m not their customer there isn’t anything really I can do. Besides I am mostly just pirating stuff these days. Being able to afford food is somehow more important.It’s both.
Short term, that actually will happen. Long term, new trading routes will occur.
Reason why would be that not producing could cost more than producing at a loss.
