• IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    13 days ago

    I don’t understand why more Americans just don’t dress up like ICE and do whatever they want …

    • rob a bank
    • local courthouse and help out someone being actually processed by ICE
    • upset your local parish for no reason
    • raid a school and let the kids out early for fun
    • upset and panic a Republican political event
    • local supermarket and grab some free coffee
    • raid a library and take a book without signing it out
    • get your daily groceries at the grocery store and don’t pay for anything
    • go into a bar and scare everyone … then take all the money and booze you want
    • go into a car dealership and steal a brand new car

    … like … no one is bothering to check who ICE is and they are not identifying themselves.

    All they have is body armour, masks and firearms … anyone can do that … which means, anyone can do whatever they want.

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      13 days ago

      I think they are. There’s many just disappearing with nothing from the gov. It’s a human trafficking field day out there. No American is safe and everyone should remain armed and ready to defend themselves in public.

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        That’s the other thing I find unusual … why no one is doing anything to just threaten and shoot ICE agents … it’s a legal free for all right now

        Someone attacks your home, they don’t identify themselves, refuse to identify themselves and kidnap and detain people … why aren’t people just standing up to them with guns that are supposed to be everywhere in the US?

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          13 days ago

          The lack of violent opposition to ICE is how you know that none of their targets are actually gang members.

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            It’s a no win situation … just like WWII

            If you eliminate all decent people from the population and remove their influence … all you’ll end up with is psychopaths and violent people … who will all end up destroying everything for everyone

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      12 days ago

      raid a library and take a book without signing it out

      Hey! That ain’t cool.

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    12 days ago

    People should try protesting ICE while dressed as ICE. All masked, of course.

    If the Nazi cunts are allowed to do it, then anyone should be able to dress however the fuck they want.

    You can’t be charged for imitating an ICE agent if not even ICE agents provide ID, or can prove who they are.

    🤗

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    12 days ago

    Has anyone noticed that the ICE goons dress like the terrorists from counterstrike?

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    13 days ago

    There’s gotta be some sort of secret code word you have to know,……no never mind. So far this administration are far too dumb to have even considered this possibility.

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      13 days ago

      These people are all coworkers in career LEO positions.

      You think one group of 20 dudes have Kevlar vests and their sidearms at home and just pitch up at a court house like it’s a shift at a Denny’s? These people have desks and a locker room somewhere where they see each other without masks. They know each other well before the masks go on.

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        12 days ago

        I’ve heard stories of two police departments confusing each other and literally get in a fighting match, so it might not be that far fetched

        (Undercover drug buyers meeting undercover drug sellers … hilarity ensues)

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          Yeah, but that’s not the result the OP post expects, but instead “oh, you’re on duty now? Well, sure, OK I guess.”

          What you’re suggesting of the opposite. Legit other agency LEOs show up for a double-tap arrest and the first group start shooting at them because they don’t expect them.

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        I do actually believe Kevin has just been itching to use his mall ninja gear on something other than a punching bag and is absolutely using this as an excuse to abuse and attack people.

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        These people are all coworkers in career LEO positions

        Lol no, these people are mostly flunkies who couldn’t meet the standards for military or actual police. Remember, ICE had been on a massive hiring kick.

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            There are other reasons to flunk out besides physical. Problems following superiors orders seems like a likely reason, but there are plenty to choose from

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          They are about to hire thousands more. Think about the type of person who would apply for that job. It’s not going to be people who want to help immigrants navigate the system, it’s going to be people who want to hurt minorities.

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            Seems we could use a few thousand decent people to join ICE and start exercising some of the ideally non-violent techniques found in the CIA’s civilian sabotage field manual from WW2.

            “Oh shit. Sorry boss. I thought this ICE van ran on diesel fuel, not gasoline.”

            “Ah crap, I left the door to the detention van unlocked and all the prisoners ran away!”

            “What do you mean I’m lazy and unproductive? I’ve been at every one of our raids. Just because I didn’t apprehend anyone myself, doesn’t mean I wasn’t working.”

            “Look, I’m just being thorough. It’s important to check, double check, and triple check any orders or warrants. There’s a lot of people trying to sabotage ICE right now. That’s why I always confirm our orders both in email and in person before moving forward. I would also like to hold a meeting to plan how we might establish a committee on preventing leftists from sabotaging ICE.”

            Collect a paycheck, drain ICE funds, and be the most unproductive and incompetent ICE agent in history.

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              I truly like this idea.

              Unfortunately, they’ll want to see my social media, and when they see that I routinely refer to the Faux President as HitlerPig, and Stephen Miller as PeeWee Himmler, they’ll probably escort me straight from the interview to El Salvador.

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      The secret code? Just tell them a racist joke and a give them a wink and you should be fine

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        you need the attitude too. Legs far apart, swagger. Dressup in as much suprplus military gear as you can find, the more useless and inappropriate for the situation the better. And dont forget your punisher patch.

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      If you have small cards or “tickets” with people’s mother/native languages on it, the real racist POS people will probably not understand that?

      Or they will freak out at the sight of anything not American…

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      Unless they have some special system where the key changes just repeating everything they say throughout the crowd would solve it anyway.

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    Given that they’re in masks and civilian clothing when they kidnap people, there apparently is no official “ICE uniform”. Would be interesting to see them attempt to charge somebody with “impersonating a federal officer” when they’re just dressed in normal street clothes.

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        Its not like these people just start their day off from home. This isn’t some 9-5 office job.

        They go to an office and park their cars (probably trucks) in the same lot, they kit up in a locker room and spend an hour shooting the shit with all their bros, and then talk about who is wearing what subtle things so they can tell Jenkins from Thompson at a distance. They know each other. They hang out at each other’s houses on the weekends. Their kids play together. They know who is supposed to be there that day. They have a game plan as to who does what. They chit chat about music and guns and the weather and cars and TV shows quietly in the downtime.

        These people are not you. They can tell when someone else just shows up. They are organized when required, idiosyncratic about key details when needed, and hierarchical. An outsider only gets a pass when a CO tells them the outsider is OK.

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            I think you meant to finish that the inter-agency is notoriously bad at communicating and informing each other. Yes, that’s true, but unless the OP situation plans to identify themselves as the FBI with fake badges, credentials, and possibly even paperwork that the subject’s lawyer can corroborate, it’s not going to go well.

            Might make some good fiction. IRL would make for a lengthy prison term.

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            Have you seen what ice is wearing? That’s not a uniform that you can impersonate. That’s just random clothes. Not even the color of their masks is the same.

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              Yeah, as long as you don’t try to claim you’re law enforcement they can’t legally get you on those outfits. You can look up pictures of them, go on evike or another airsoft shop, and you match 99% of their different outfits. At most you need to go elsewhere for matching denim.

              Kidnapping and false imprisonment might be on the table though, depending on the other person. There’s also conealing/falsefying your identity in a court building, which is iffy in some jurisdictions.

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              Starting to look like it.

              (But really, people need to stop this crap. You have masked goons grabbing people on the streets there is no reason to try and reason the lack of law. If they want to nail you they will, and having the “but look at what she was wearing” at this stage is pathetic.)

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      unfortunately have to agree here, leftists are not known for getting on the same page, and when half of them are doing shoot ICE aganets and half are doing sow chaos by pretend to look like them, things will end up badly. We need to pick a plan and follow through for once.

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    With all this open encouragement of beating up or murdering ICE agents, I think dressing up so you’re generally perceived as an ICE agent is a dumb idea at this time.

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      “in these particular times X is happening so we’ll need you to act this way that we want you to” is classic cop coercion.

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    I love the idea but I feel like you’d have trouble convincing anyone you were the good guys.

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      You don’t need to convince anyone but the escorted. And even then you could arrange something with them before the immigration hearing.

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    I was reading an article about a massive ICE raid at a Home Depot in LA, and one woman they interviewed escaped by jumping into a stranger’s car at a red light.

    It made me think that if I’m ever driving past a situation like that, I would pull over and try to squeeze as many escapees as possible in my vehicle.

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    dress up like ice agents

    So just a mask on your head, a rifle with some racist inscription on it in your hand, and you’re good to go!