I always dug into RegEdit to disable this crap. And somehow, each time, it was a different series of steps.
Ok. So you type the correct name of the program. Cause terminal ain’t it. CMD and it opens fine.
Yeah. This is just another in the long long long list of examples or Linux users trying to manipulate things.
I’ve always opened it with “terminal”.
Terminal is a program, and it can do WSL, powershell and batch. It has tabs and other modern features.Pretty sure CMD only does batch
Not in windows. On mac and linux maybe but CMD has been CMD since 3.1.
This is the equivilent of typing “pic fixer” and expectung photoshop to appear.
You can literally see they have Terminal installed in the screenshot. It may not be default but it is certainly on that computer. But a web search is far more important than a program installed on the computer.
My main gripe with this travesty of a “Start menu” is that it isn’t the Tom Hanks movie of a similar name.
The other is that even if it were, it won’t just play, but rather send you to the shiniest new subscription service to subscribe.
Taking 10 as far as I can go then just installing Ubuntu.
Check out Mint. It’s based on Ubuntu but has Canonical’s controversial stuff removed, plus an added layer of polish.
What version of Firefox does it install? I tried Ubuntu, but the Snaps are having real trouble with my N150 CPU in the mini PC I bought. Cannot do hardware video decoding at all, despite the CPU being more than capable of it.
Well, the Snaps are one of the things they took out. Flatpaks are enabled in the software manager by default though.
I believe everything that comes preinstalled, including Firefox and LibreOffice and such, is installed the traditional way as if you did “apt install firefox.”
I installed LibreWolf and like it. It’s just firefox with telemetry removed and some privacy hardening out of the box.
No snapd on mint at all.
Removed by mod
3-day timeout. Stop being a dick.
Ah yes, OP bad
sometimes OP is indeed bad
Had to use a W11 machine last week and this was one of the 1st things that annoyed the shit out of me. On W10 you start typing an app name and press enter and it opens. What the fuck are they at changing that. And don’t get me started on Outlook or Windows explorer.
Fuck you Microsoft. I’m going to Linux as soon as possible
KDE’s Plasma Desktop has a web search plugin that I use all the time. Typing the Win (Super) key followed by
wp:Sistine Chapeland then the Enter key brings me straight to the Wikipedia entry on the Sistine Chapel.imdb:Jurassic Parkbrings me to the IMDb page for Jurassic Park.yt:will search YouTube, and so on. There are around 200 keywords pre-programmed into it, including for searching programming language documentation. Unlike the Windows feature displayed here, it doesn’t use the network unless you specify a prefix and it accesses only the service you specify by the keyword. Whoever added this feature had to do so very little work compared to the payoff. It just takes the part after the colon and inserts it into a search URL for the corresponding service and opens that URL in the browser. It’s very convenient. None of this web search stuff comes up when you’re just searching for apps and there are no surprises.Even macos spotlight knows to prioritize system apps over web searches and such. Iirc it’s like if the query exists as a system app that will be the top result, if two system apps share the query the most recent result selected will win (eg typed “ter” and last used terminal that will be the autocomplete and top choice but if you also have an app called like terminex or something you can down key to it), and web results are only if queries have no match in the spotlight db for files, contacts, etc (which would be in the match list after system apps. I don’t know what the hierarchy is but there is one iirc). So if you type in “phantom menace” and have no apps, files, contacts, etc matching that it’ll prompt to query google.
What you describe is far greater in functionality (and of course spotlight doesnt have plugin support, though it can be outright replaced at least (for now)) but it’s absolutely insane microsoft is going this way with ad nonsense. It’s just disrespectful and greedy. Who is even left using desktop OS anymore? It’s like power users and office workers. The power users are gonna switch to linux or m series macbooks (which doesn’t rule out linux). So is this just a play to get the administrative assistants and other office drones of the world to become a captive audience they can sell?
Yes but this doesn’t generate ad revenue!
/S
Doesn’t anyone think about shareholders!?!!1!
I like that if I type an application (the main reason I type in that window) that I don’t have yet, rather than some nonsense like this it gives me a shortcut to the application IN the package manager.
Yeah, as far as i’m concerned that’s about the only acceptible thing to have come up that isn’t an application you already have. If I want internet results or files, I’d be using the appropriate browser for those.
KRunner is awesome
Winaero tweaker and open shell will do wonders if you have to use Windows 11
Can’t polish a turd
You can just do reddit. No need for 3rd Party Software at all. I’m team Linux nowadays
Are you that dude that makes accounts for a few hours and deletes them?
Well after a few uses it’s dirty right?
Something like that
deleted by creator
What makes you think that? I’d like to be able to identify them as well.
They’re brand new and this is their only comment
Remember when Canonical pioneered this?
And it was bad then too; tho it was easy to uninstall those packages.
Adding websearch to the start bar’s search was solving a problem that didn’t exist. If I want to search the web, I can use a web browser to do it. I feel like it was added to try to make up for how bad the search used to be (and still is? I just never really had a habit of using it because it was so unreliable and depended on other ways to figure out where things were), so that it would give something, plus MS really wanted bing to be a thing.
I recently switched to KDE and their main search bar also includes web search. I haven’t looked at the settings for it and expect there’s probably a way to disable that, but I didn’t feel great about seeing that there.
Its pumping up those Edge numbers!
Adding websearch to the start bar’s search was solving a problem that didn’t exist.
Maybe the average user is so ignorant and bad at computers they don’t understand this. They don’t know what a browser is. They don’t know what a website is. They don’t know what a program is. It’s all just stuff.
Personally, I’d rather spend billions on education than AI slop and other patches on “people are kind of dull”
It’s like, I get the idea of saying “this user is searching for a program they don’t have, let’s link to it” and then they’re like “oh what if we searched for everything?” and then someone else is was like “And what if we put ads in to monetize it!” Then that last person probably got a bonus.
I feel productive already, boss!
Thanks I hate it
or when you speed type something and it just opens edge and searches bing for the app you tried to open
As a software dev I wonder how does this even happen?
- The movie snippet somehow has bigger weight for ordering - why would that ever be preferred?
- The ordering is random?
- The movie snippet is faster than App and Folder snippets?
It’s incredible how incompetent Microsoft is.
Outside the quite small bubble of nerds that is Lemmy and software developers/admins in general a random person is more likely to want the movie than the terminal app.
In my experience people don’t know about / use search in the start menu at all. They mostly ask someone on teams if they can email them the file they need and then star that email. If a program is not pinned to the startbar then it might as well not exist. The workforce today is not computer-literate.
Highly doubt that
Even without any nefarious motives, they just do dumb stuff like that. I have Clone Hero installed. Whenever I press Super/Windows and I start typing ‘clon’, the FIRST thing that comes up is ‘Control Panel’, Clone Hero being the second guess.
So whenever I want to quickly start the game, I type ‘clon’, press enter, then get annoyed by the lack of Clone Hero and an unwelcome Control Panel window.
The bigger weight is anything that MS can sell for ad revenue.
They just use the profit amount as the weight and sort descending
I genuinely think you might be right.
but in this example clearly Wikipedia and probably IMDB are not paying them right? Or is it their attempt to disguise selling out by always preferring the buyable option even when it’s at 0$?
IMDB might be, they’re covered in trackers and ads. MS is a donor to Wikipedia (via Microsoft Matching Gifts Program) so they’re getting what they paid for.
but IMDB is owned by direct Microsoft competitor - Amazon.
They’re not really competitors across both enterprises. If they were then you’d need some conspiracy theory-level mental gymnastics for things like:
https://aws.amazon.com/windows/products/
And finally
https://advertising.amazon.com/library/news/microsoft-amazon-dsp-partnership
This isn’t Coke vs. Pepsi for computer boops. This is about ad revenue! They can partner up to cut Google out of the mix!
As a software dev I wonder how does this even happen?
As a guy who runs the Windows environment at work and doesn’t see any of that shit at all - neither at work, nor on my extended family’s devices - I also wonder, how does this even happen?
it happens by installing windows 11 home or probwithout running a decrapification script or applying gpos to disable it
None of the Win11 Home, nor Pro instances I’ve seen (and I’ve seen a lot) had that issue.
I did notice, however, that people complaining about were going very quiet very fast when asked if they used a “debloater” or some such…
The Person deciding only uses web services, so why should those pesky systems apps be showed first?
My point was that the only time I ever see anything like this happen, is when people complain about it online.
I’ve managed around 10-20k Windows devices since Windows 10 came out. I’ve never seen a web search take priority over apps search. I’m honestly baffled as to where people are getting these screenshots from.
I saw it all the time. It drove me nuts. I’m not sure how you literally never see it, because my clean and fresh installs of windows always worked this way until I did a RegEdit update to kill the websearch in it.
I tried to disable web search entirely and it still prioritizes it over shit on my actual computer. Its infuriating and I will be moving to Linux when I get the time to get off 10.
Turn it off in settings. Open Search, click the three dots menu, “Search settings” and turn off “Let search apps show results”.
If you did and they still show up, your OS is busted and you should reinstall. Pro tip: don’t use any “debloaters”, they cause all kinds of headaches.
EDIT: if this is infuriating to the point you want to switch, skip Linux and go to Mac. Source: Linux user for over a year.
Haha, sorry, just realised that I read the comment completely wrong somehow
But to your comment, i have experienced that windows is trying to sort personalised, so order changes based on what you frequently use
I recognised that because i need to help my coworkers often and while the amount of letters needed to show me the app I need varies a lot
Ahh, maybe that’s why! Interesting! Also interesting how people end up in that situation and then complain about it online…
We all know how reliable AI is 😄 (personalised sorting is AI as well)
Personalised sorting is very much not AI. Unless you’re suggesting we’ve had AI since the early 90s?
Theyve been rolling out intellisense for the terminal in Vscode, it’s completely breaking tab complete for me.
Wait until corporate america figures this out, outrnext big blockbusters: cmd, taskmgr and devmgmt
I’m looking forward to PowerShell (2026)
I’m pretty excited about the Wget miniseries.
I read that as ministries, and i’d be down either way :)
so much “user friendly”
