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supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz to Ask Lemmy@lemmy.world · 23 days ago

If you had to replace the floppy disk save symbol in software with a new symbol for saving what would you choose and why?

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If you had to replace the floppy disk save symbol in software with a new symbol for saving what would you choose and why?

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  • TrackinDaKraken@lemmy.world
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    An arrow pointing into a folder, similar to this. Sidesteps the tech issue altogether.

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      I mean, you’re just replacing one archaic symbol with another.

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        I still use folders to organize paper documents. Taxes and medical stuff mostly.

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        Normal people call computer directories ‘folders’.

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          Which predate computers and floppy disks

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        I agree. I heard recently a lot of kids under 20 grew up in an iPhone, iPad, and chrome world and never learned “folder” or directory concepts so it’s a tough transition in the work world. Paper organizers are not nearly as ubiquitous as they once were.

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        It connects it to another computer symbol, the folder which is seen plenty of times as the thing containing files. It’s a solid solution.

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          Isn’t that used as an icon for moving a file from one folder to another?

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            i think in that case your should first click on a “folder with arrow going out” (move out) icon before given this one to move into another directory. so the context is clear.

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          Yeah, if an open folder icon means ‘open a file’, then this inversion means saving the file.

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      We should do away with directories. Just one big block of files.

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        Screw multiple files, just use one big one. Just append anything you want to add and you’ll have everything in 1 spot

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          Makes sense. Then you can add some kind of index to the file so you can jump to the parts you want. Just track a list of chunks, so they don’t have to be contiguous.

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            Yeah, and we could give that huge file some kind of internal and logical structure to find those chunks, maybe something hierarchical with human readable names!

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              Yeah! Now we’re cooking! I bet we could really improve resiliency and seek times with different data structures, too. B trees?

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              Or maybe we could keep the flat structure and have some kind of syntax for querying the data… some kind of structured language.

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              You’ve basically invented OneNote

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                Crap, I was hoping to invent file systems.

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          Easy to find saves time

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          PalmOS actually did that. Programs had records saved in a central database, not files.

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        deleted by creator

      • untorquer@lemmy.world
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        Yes look everything up by keyword describing its contents to AI agent.

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      Yea replace the 90s tech icon for the filing cabinet paper folder , from who knows when. It’s actually a good suggestions this technology still hasn’t disappeared. But it will soon, as foretold by the paperless office prophecies. So I think a half buried treasure chest icon would be better as a forever lasting icon.

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      Is there an icon that expresses the default cloud save location as well as the circuitous GUI you need to navigate yo select your desired location on local storage?

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    You can’t just jump to the future, so use this one for the next decade:

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      … but platter drives are old hat, SSDs are the new hotness?

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        Can’t skip a generation, gotta go from the floppy disk icon to the HDD icon for a while first.

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          Forgot about Zip drives.

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            Meh, just a hard floppy. Although I really did appreciate my Zip 100 drive for that storage space before writable CDs came along.

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        That’s the joke.

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          But hard drives came first.

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          Well it’s not a very good one.

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        Isnt this just a hdd platter?

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          Oh wait im dumb its a 75 record

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      Hard drives pre-dated floppy discs by 15 years.

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      I bow to thy argumentation.

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    SD card. Half us old timers won’t even realize it’s not a floppy disk.

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      Yet 90% of young people won’t know what it is because digital cameras have been replaced by phones and phones no longer have microSD lol

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        Gotta give the next gen something to complain about.

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          In the dystopia of outer-worlds-esque orwellien-surveillance corporate feudalism it looks like they will have to endure, I think we can afford to lighten up on them 😂

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        Digital cameras are in style again. I’ve seen screenless ones for sale at several places these past few weeks.

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      I would also accept any other recognizable, removable media. Even a generic USB stick would be more relevant than a floppy disk.

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    every letter in the alphabet started as a symbol of something 2500-6000 years ago, “A” for instance is an upside-down Ox head. people in future generations will continue using the floppy symbol, cuz they learned that means saving, despite floppies not being relevant to their lives

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      This makes me think “new file”

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      Timeless. Ubiquitous. Mandatory for all of K-12 and often beyond. Perfect.

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      This gives Calibre FOSS vibes.

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      A scroll and quill is a pretty good idea, but it’d be better as something more squarish than irregular, I think.

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        I agree. I made this jokingly, but a number of people seem to actually like it. I also started thinking on how to improve it immediately after I made it lol.

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    I think we should just keep the floppy disk symbol at this point, because it doesn’t matter what it was originally based on or whether that exists any more–everyone knows what that symbol means, and it can’t really be confused with anything else.

    There’s no point making an icon that looks like any other particular kind of storage device since those are changing all the time. So we either have to pick some real world thing like a safe or warehouse or grain silo or whatever. or invent some completely new symbol that’s not related to anything and then everyone would have to learn it. Which takes us back to just keeping the floppy disk symbol.

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      grain silo

      This is a hilariously awkward suggestion. At the scale of the average save icon, what do you think a grain silo symbol would look like?

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        like this?

        drawing a grain silo doesn’t mean you have to draw the grains.

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          Honestly probably the most universally recognizable save symbol in the end, certainly if I had to go back in time and establish contact with an ancient people and teach them Intuit Quickbooks or other tax accounting software to run a cutthroat tax accounting operation using timetravel to access low cost labor that would be the icon I would choose for saving.

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    Nobody else immediately thought of this?

    "Buddy Jesus" meme image. A statue of a pretty comical looking Jesus statue winking with a goofy grin making finger guns.

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      Incremental save needs to be Buddha

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    A squirrel, as in to squirrel it away

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      Best answer, but the save button should save the file somewhere random each time on the storage if the icon is a squirrel.

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        So, like my work computer then

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        Doesn’t everybody save stuff somewhere in the mess that is their desktop?

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        Kind of just sounds like OneDrive.

        They’ll get it for you if you want it, but you don’t get to know where it’s actually stored (or who else is accessing it).

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      Sorry for not submitting my homework on time. The squirrel took it away, never to be seen again.

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    A CD image. Got to move with the times.

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      Isnt it the glorious zip disks turn first?

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      What a save!

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        Okay.

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          Wow!

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      This is the correct answer.

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    A cassette tape.

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      Hahahaha, dammit you win

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    A quill

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      We’re going even more old fashioned.

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      An elegant solution indeed

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    A safe or vault symbol as an indicator for safe keeping

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    If the floppy disk was no longer the save symbol for software, and I had to chose one, I’d chose the floppy disk symbol.

    But you worded your question wisely to avoid that loophole, so I’m not sure what to use instead for an otherwise unique and ubiquitous symbol, already known as “the save file icon” for two generations that have not seen it.

    While we’re at it, let’s also replace the phone icons with a rectangle, as to not confuse anyone.

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      Just change one pixel and call it new.

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        You could make it a zip drive. No one would know the difference…

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    I’ve already seen it replaced in some applications. Don’t like that.

    I know it’s “if you have to”, but if I have any choice at all, the floppy icon stays.

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      What even is the point in changing it? Like sure we don’t use floppies anymore, but it’s a well established symbol for saving.

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      What did they replace it with?

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        An arrow pointing down.

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