Maybe I’m just face-blind or being dense but the photos from the scene of the crime look like a different dude than the ginning hostel check in guy. The jackets and backpacks are different. Although people can have multiple jackets and backpacks. We don’t see much of the shooters face but the eyebrows look different. Although, people can pluck/shave eyebrows. I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?

  • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
    4511·
    2 months ago

    I guess the happy hostel guy would have come forward and been like “WTF?” and “I have an alibi” if it wasn’t him?

    I sure as fuck wouldn’t. I know enough not to come anywhere near the police if they’re scrutinizing me for any reason, even if I know 100% I’m innocent and I can prove it. You absolutely cannot trust them not to just arrest you and railroad you into a bullshit conviction anyway, or plant some evidence, or decide “he had a knife” and just outright kill you. You know how they say “anything you say can be used against you?” That’s because they absolutely won’t use it to help you, even if you’re not guilty of anything.

    I am positive city hall is breathing down the NYPD’s neck real hard right now. The entire department has got a lot of egg on its face for not being able to stop this guy, not being able to positively identify this guy, hell, not even know with any certainty where he went afterwards. They are under immense pressure to hang somebody – anybody – over this because they’re looking even more like chumps than usual.

    So no, a wise man would not expose himself to the cops in any way whatsoever.

  • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
    1241·
    2 months ago

    Feel free to upload more pictures claiming to be him that aren’t, post them to Reddit, send them to the news claiming to be from an official source.

    Protect your folk heros America.

  • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
    1111·
    2 months ago

    Backpack & jacket type AND color are all different. The other dude even has his hood from a hoodie beneath the jacket while the first one has his hood from his jacket. Facially also completely different. I guess the NYPD has reached Reddit doxxing levels now.

    • xapr [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      271·
      2 months ago

      I guess the NYPD has reached Reddit doxxing levels now.

      Maybe they have always been at Reddit doxxing levels?

    • fistac0rpse@fedia.io
      76·
      2 months ago

      The killer seems pretty competent, having multiple jackets and backpacks and switching things up to make it harder to track him doesn’t seem unreasonable.

      • Pennomi@lemmy.worldEnglish
        38·
        2 months ago

        Having two dudes wearing similar stuff also doesn’t sound unreasonable. It’s really inconclusive and could do a shit ton of harm to an innocent person if the police got this wrong.

        • fistac0rpse@fedia.io
          31·
          2 months ago

          Totally agree, just saying that clothes are easy to change if you’re a motivated and competent killer. I trust the police about as far as they can shoot my dog from.

      • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
        6·
        2 months ago

        I mean, surely you’d bring clothes that look a bit different, though…? As far as I’m able to tell, the only notable similarity between the two is that the clothes look superficially similar…

      • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
        3·
        2 months ago

        And what proof do you have of the killer doing that? The only reason they posted the other dude is because he has a vaguely similar outfit style (backpack + hood, which is incredibly common among younger people, especially during this type of weather). If I were the killer I’d not switch into similar clothes, but something completely different.

      • Fonzie!@ttrpg.network
        1·
        1 month ago

        I thought you were joking (missing /s) but judging by the comments you mean it?

        I don’t think this sounds plausible, no. You’d try to make yourself look completely every time if that were the case.

        • fistac0rpse@fedia.io
          2·
          2 months ago

          Why so aggressive? They might not be confused. They could just as easily be deliberately lying to frame someone else since the real killer is gone and that makes them look bad.

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
      24·
      2 months ago

      Yeah, these are obviously different. All kinds of visible differences. Pockets, color of bag, strap sizes, no string on hood, lapel looks different, one looks more like a hoodie with a jacket, the other looks like a jacket with a hood… Just doesn’t match very well at all.

    • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de
      71·
      2 months ago

      That doesn’t mean it’s not the same person. It means they have more jackets and bags. If I was going to murder someone I too might bring extras so I can get changed afterwards.

      To be clear I hope they don’t catch this guy, but I’m just being real.

      • rocketpoweredredneck@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        1·
        2 months ago

        I’d do two bags in two separate locations with different changes of clothes in each. whichever bag I went would depend on what the circumstances afterwards were.

        • Mongostein@lemmy.ca
          3·
          2 months ago

          No no, you just wear the getaway outfit under the hoodie and pants that are easy to take off.

    • Mango@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 months ago

      It’s the Everyday Bag by Peak Design. Probably v2. I want it so I can cosplay assassin-kun! Gotta figure out the right jacket.

  • MagnyusG@lemmy.world
    58·
    2 months ago

    I was curious when I was hearing the police chatter saying the suspect was wearing a “cream-coloured” jacket, when in the assassination footage it’s pretty undeniably black or a dark colour at least.

    • xtr0n@sh.itjust.worksOP
      37·
      2 months ago

      The fabric looks different too. Like the shooter’s jacket seems to have a texture like gore-tex and the hostel guy’s jacket seems more like a cotton-poly weave. It’s hard to know for sure with the low quality images, but the colors look really different (and neither is anything close to cream)

      • BigPotato@lemmy.world
        6·
        2 months ago

        The pockets are alone to give away that Hostel guy is wearing a “field jacket” cotton blend while Agent 47 is wearing a ECWCS cold/wet weather top. He could have two jackets and all that but they’re different jackets.

    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip
      121·
      2 months ago

      Never underestimate how actively worthless “eyewitness” testimony is.

      I was not aware of this detail. But if it were just bystanders telling stuff to cops before they got a hold of the footage, they are going to go with it. Especially since it is already pretty worthless to begin with (so many jackets are easily reversed).

  • spector@lemmy.ca
    604·
    2 months ago

    The clothing color could be due to lighting. Remember the blue black dress meme? Multiple backpacks is too easy. So that’s a non-issue.

    That being said. Why isn’t anyone considering that maybe the cops couldn’t give a shit either. But they have to try because the money people said so.

    • Smoogs@lemmy.world
      39·
      2 months ago

      I don’t think lighting makes a light grey backpack into black. That’s a bit of a stretch. Especially considering the jacket on the left have no chest pockets. The one on the right has massive pocket flaps like they are the main character.

      • tetris11@lemmy.ml
        91·
        2 months ago

        thank you! where did he stash the other jacket, and if he did why would he pick one of same colour and type?

        • TBi@lemmy.world
          4·
          2 months ago

          4D chess! Obviously that’s his plan to throw off the police, have another almost identical but distinguishable backpack and jacket! /s

      • GladiusB@lemmy.world
        71·
        2 months ago

        It’s more than incompetent. It’s that they can’t get caught. That there is a way to execute and not be held accountable. If that knowledge hits the masses it’s a public relations nightmare.

    • Psythik@lemmy.world
      111·
      2 months ago

      How do you explain the different pockets and completely different backpack, then?

    • Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world
      62·
      2 months ago

      That’s what I think as well. The assassin hopped on a bike and pedaled off to Central Park.

      Personally I think he had a different clothes going into the city. Changed in CP, Stole a bike, then biked to the hotel did the deed. Biked back to CP ditched the clothes and bike and left the city.

    • frog_brawler@lemmy.world
      8·
      2 months ago

      I mean, typically I’d agree with you, but there’s a small chance that this is smarter than a lot of people are initially thinking (but still fucked up none the less) … maybe someone at NYPD found a video / picture of a dude that they know was not the dude. Maybe they have evidence that the guy in this picture in the green jacket is 100% innocent. Maybe they arrest him, his lawyer gets him out and they all of a sudden have no leads at all. Cold case.

  • Black History Month@lemmy.world
    54·
    2 months ago

    CNN and others just put the photos out without verification. No official photos have been released. CNN even said as much in their article

  • yesman@lemmy.world
    49·
    2 months ago

    These are not the same person. They fit the description, and where near the scene. Police would want to talk to both regardless.

  • ZeroOne@lemmy.world
    43·
    2 months ago

    Reminder even facial-recognition softwares & Geo-Location data HAVE made errors that put innocent people in jail

  • atro_city@fedia.io
    371·
    2 months ago

    These all look like different people with photos from different places at different times of the day. Probably their AI matched them and the coppers just had a quick glance, then put them on this panel.

    Honestly, I doubt the person who shot him would actually be mad at being caught. He might’ve started a movement.

  • Dr_Box@lemmy.world
    31·
    2 months ago

    The assassin looks like he is wearing a black windbreaker style jacket and the other guy looks like he is wearing a cream colored dickies jean jacket with the grey hood like you get from walmart