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    Yea it sucks the energy is only renewable until the sun explodes. Oh well, back to coal.

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      Not enough mass to go supernova; the sun is expected to become a red dwarf.

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        White dwarf

        Red dwarves are failed stars that never attained the mass necessary to become a full-on star. Jupiter actually isn’t far off from this status.

        On a related note, red dwarves will probably be some of the last sources of light in the universe, and live for trillions of years due to how slowly they burn fuel, so… suck it, Shapiro?

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          You might be thinking of brown dwarfs. Red dwarfs are fully qualified stars which sustain nuclear fusion in their cores. Brown dwarfs do not, though still emit radiation by other various means.

          Jupiter is also somewhat close, in astronomical terms, to being a brown dwarf. It is not even remotely near being a red dwarf.

          Your last point is correct though. Red dwarfs last much, much longer than all other stars due to being fully convective which allows them to consume all their fuel uniformly.

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          “Small improvements cannot instantly solve the whole problem. Therefore, improvements are meaningless.”

          - The condensed ideology of conservatives

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            I mean, I’ve had braces for a whole day and my teeth are still crooked, so dentistry is a sham!!1 /s

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            It’s fine, he’s the kind of person that goes “yeah, you might’ve won $500m in the lottery, but it’s only $300m after taxes” because that’s fucken chump change or smth

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              Even after taxes, there still is a huge pile of cash left.

              I can’t imagine how I would spend €300m. And I have some pretty wild ideas for it.

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          Jupiter’s quite a long way off from being a red dwarf it would need to be in any 10 times the mass be a red dwarf.

          Jupiter is somewhat close to being a brown dwarf which is a star that failed to even become a failed star and is merely hot and glowy but not plasma. Jupiter’s atmosphere is just gaseous though perhaps really deep down at the core it achieves brown dwarf level status but we don’t consider it to count because it’s not the whole planet.

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            Red dwarfs are not failed stars. They are the lowest mass objects capable of nuclear fusion. Brown dwarfs are failed stars. Brown dwarfs officially start at 13 Jupiter masses, & have a maximum mass of 75 Jupiter’s. Beyond that mass, fusion starts & the object is officially a star.

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              Red dwarfs are not failed stars. They are the lowest mass objects capable of nuclear fusion.

              Brown dwarfs are capable of fusion of deuterium at an extremely low power output. Their inability to conduct more substantial fusion involving hydrogen-1 is what sets them apart from red dwarfs.

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              Well failed star is an erroneous term it just means any star that is not bright enough and hot enough that any world around it could sustain life (at least carbon-based as we know it to be).

              Any world close enough to have liquid water would be so close as to be irradiated beyond anything we consider to be survivable and probably tidily locked to boot.

              It’s still a star in the real sense of the term just quite dim and cool.

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                No, it means that it failed to become a star by initiating stellar fusion reactions. This isn’t some science fiction term. Red dwarfs are stars, and brown dwarfs are not.

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    Man… even being as generous as possible, it’s still an incredibly stupid point. “Renewable” doesn’t mean “infinite”. If something can only be renewed a finite number of times, or even once, then it’s still renewable.

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      I honestly believe that he knows he is full of shit and arguing in bad faith, but he knows it keeps him in the money. He is entirely too clever to beleive everything he says.

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        Iono, he’s said some insanely stupid stuff that only embarrasses him and doesn’t help him politically. Have you seen his writing before he became famous? Ridiculous stuff. I think he just has an unchecked ego hopelessly warped by his sycophant backers.

        Basically exactly what the previous commenter said, dunning-kruger effect over and over and over.

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          IMO he speaks too well and articulates his points too well in interviews for me to beleive its always ego and stupidity all the time. How many of his twitter followers are people who follow him just so they can call him an idiot? How many people watch him in interviews because they are hoping he rams his foot in his mouth and looks like an idiot? Even the “WAP” thing which made him look like a complete twit meant that he was trending on Twitter for like a week.

          Enragement drives engagement, and he is an infuriating tool, but also someone who is making a career out of being one.

          I’m not saying he doesnt belive some of it, or even most of it. But I have very little doubt that sometimes he is hamming it up just to get the clicks and stay relevant.

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            If you believe he speaks well and articulates his points well, I have a Benny Shaps edition bridge to sell you.

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              By the standards of right wing talking heads. I dislike the man immensely and I hear the bullshit and debate club tactics but he is a pretty capable speaker, especially when playing to audiences who want to believe what he has to say.

              I think the man is a fucking weasel, but I dont think he is a dumb weasel.

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    Ah yes… Conservation of Energy… which means… that we never lose energy…

    I… is he trying to prove that there… is… renewable resources or is he just that dumb? Oh yeah its that.

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    Okay yeah it’s funny, but the tweet is 7 years older than the reply.

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      Sometimes you need time to think up the perfect comeback. For example, “The Jerk Store called, they’re running out of you!”

      Pure gold takes time to form.

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      What, you think there’s a statute of limitations for clowning on dumbfucks?

      Weird.

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      And judging by the time and the #teaparty it’s actually #KochFundedPAC.

      The tea party movement was pretty much entirely on the shoulders of the Koch asshats. Astroturfed “grassroots” bullshit. It’s pretty much how we ended up with the Freedumb Caucus…

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      The heat death of the universe will occur in 1.7×10 to the power of 106. Why should humanity even get out of bed, much less harness all of earth’s energy becoming a type 1 civ or build a dyson’s sphere and become a type 2 civ…

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    So I guess he’s technically correct. I mean the Sun will run out at some point. God he’s a fucking idiot. He has the gall to cal others dumbass? JFC

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      The same as the person at Olive Garden who is contesting the truth behind the “unlimited breadsticks” claim

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    I guess on a multi-billion year time scale, he’s right. Eventually the sun will stop burning and we won’t be able to harness its power. Until then, it’s renewable energy. What a fool.

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    Is the goal here to say something so dumb it just locks your brain out of a response?

    It isn’t like if we setup solar panels the sun is going to burn faster.

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      Yes.

      It’s called a thought cancelling argument. Essentially it’s a non sequitur that’s so fucking dumb that your stunned silence is seen as “getting owned” by limpdick morons.

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    Ben’s tiny hands probably cannot generate enough force to knock a plate out of a waiter’s hand (see the rules of standard physics)

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      Lmao, wasn’t there a politician who was digging on someone’s hands within the last couple of years as a main point of theirs?

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    Where does Mr. Shapiro think the energy contained within fossil fuels came from?

    It’s all the Sun in one way or another. Renewables just capture that energy more directly, effectively making them infinite until the Sun does out…

    Unfortunately “Effectively infinite until the Sun dies out” doesn’t have quite the same ring to it. Though you’d think you wouldn’t need to tell someone as “smart” as Ben Shapiro about something so basic you can literally see it in the sky.

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    There are people out there - a lot of people - who thing he’s smart. Humans are a failed evolutionary experiment.

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      Bruh, the US is still uncertain Trump won’t be elected. The proven criminal and grifter is at risk of taking the country AGAIN. The brain rot is real in the US. Of course Shapiro is a savant to them

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      When you’re less intelligent than the layer of algae on the lake, any moron with a room temp IQ seems intelligent. Which, incidentally, is why republicans are anti-education: when your constituents are stupid AF, they’ll believe any dipshit claiming they want to make America great while they burn it down around their ears.

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      A friend (ex friend I guess since it’s been two months) is constantly spouting the shit these types disseminate

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        My hot take … This is what happens when someone doesn’t learn to find their own answers. Too much of education is spoon feeding instead of having kids investigate shit they’re interested in on their own, with guidance on critical thinking. It is better now than it was BaCk In mY DaY.

        But I’m just sitting here contemplating my own brain journey. I learned far too late how to find my own answers and verify them for correctness. I tried to raise my kid from an early age to think for herself more by sometimes not verifying things for her but having her do that.

        The other thing is learning how to apply the scientific method to something you care about–to some project, say. It really has an impact when you get an answer that goes against common sense and then you verify it and think really hard and it turns out your new theory is correct.

        Imagine if education were set up with at least some portion of the day dedicated to satisfying curiosity in these ways…

        Kind of makes me think once I retire I should set up some kind of summer camp program like this.

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        I have a friend who likes Ben Shapiro. He doesn’t really follow any of his agenda, so it’s not that bad. But if the topic comes up I just switch it asap.