cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/25133597
Come one come all to the Lemmy-verse! It’s nice and cozy here, we do have some “bad parts of town” but you can do an instance block and not deal with them lol
For your memes we have !memes@lemmy.world if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like !science@mander.xyz and !biology@mander.xyz and for a meme science combo theres always the fantastic !science_memes@mander.xyz
You can also drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or hang out at !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)
There’s much more around as well!
Obligatory, fuck Spez
No mention of dbzer0. com anywhere in the meme or text? To any newcomers, if you wouldn’t download a car then you don’t need to know about that instance.
Lol I made the original meme and text, I kinda just brain dumped the instances from the top of my head, the hope was others would chime in with their fav instances/comms and add to the list
Happy to report that Zip has been quite enjoyable.
It must be the chunk of land they’re sitting on. Just can’t see it because the full text can’t be read in its entirety from that close up.
If someone’s identity is based on hating tankies, then they’re mostly likely right-wing (aka liberal).
I don’t like tankies either but they’re just more right-wingers to me. Just the alt-imperial version of liberals. That’s why libs get so mad.
Imma be honest, I don’t think .ml belongs on there. Their users can be pretty cool.
.ml is a cesspool
Block it then
I mean you say that, but it’s not like every community on .ml is focused on politics man. Their largest communities are mostly about tech. And they have a pretty cool, albeit somewhat inactive datahoarders community, of whom I think some are helping with redundant archival of datasets being erased by Trump’s administration.
Edit Addendum: For anyone who has the storage space, I would consider helping out with the effort.
If tankies are right wing, liberals are right wing, not to mention those who are actually right-wing outside of your head-canon, who is not right-wing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof
The tankie triad
making a bunch of forums seem so dark and mysterious
have you considered that some of us are just silly goofy girls
I will never understand how you would defend an instance that is not only deep in genocide denial and praise of authoritarian regimes.
But also one whose head admin (and main Lemmy dev unfortunately) is a transphobe
Transphobia is only unacceptable when it’s SHITLIBS who can be accused of it.
I am transfixed by their new obsession with women’s sports.
Remember when the WNBA was a punchline on Futurama? Where were these assholes then?
Those assholes don’t like women’s sports, they only use it as a stick to hurt those who are different from them.
First time reading the original statement, and this actually makes me less concerned. It isn’t secret knowledge that the capital has worked hard to reframe being left from wanting anti capitalist economic policies to mostly social issues without consequence such as inclusive language and skin color quotas. None of that addresses the real problem that is the capitalist system driving us all into servitude and the planet towards collapse.
This is also why the left is generally not considered attractive to the average voter. They don’t care about any of that social crap, they care about their own situation and how to improve that. And while inclusivity is important and a just cause it is entirely irrelevant in the grand scheme of things and not a valid agenda to run a political movement on.
The lives of every marginalized group of people will improve a hundred times more by toppling the system that keeps us all oppressed and unhappy, than by having the government use their preferred pronouns when letting them know they have to make do with less, again.
Just say you’re fine with bigotry as long as white dudes benefit in the way you want, it’s a lot faster and more intellectually honest.
Just say you’re fine with capitalism as long as lgbtq people are addressed in the way you want, it’s a lot faster and more intellectually honest.
have you considered that some of us are just silly goofy girls
Who play apologist for genocide and fascism.
Hai im a silly girl
This seems like an odd message considering that Lemmy, as software, is being praised here; and what is being criticized are instances wherein the admins enforce apologism for authoritarian regimes.
If someone writes a program you like, it means they’ve got good political ideas. /s
I would argue FOSS is more akin to cooperative anarchism or library economics. Murray Bookchin
i agree, commies trying to claim FOSS is really a stretch, they are desperate to pretend to be relevant
Speaking of pretending to be relevant, how ancient are you that you still use the word “commies”?
do you prefer the more current term marxist-lenninist like lee oswald?
true though, isn’t it, not being relevant since roughly… 89?
Least incoherent reactionary
From what I can tell, this tankie stuff is bullshit. In the years I’ve been here, I’ve seen close to zero ‘tankie’ content from any of these supposedly tankie instances. There’s like maybe one or two people on those instances who might fit the description if you search for them. Meanwhile, literally every day there are posts spitting on these supposed tankie instances. (And actually, it’s again a very small number of people complaining - but they put their crap into cute memes to get traction).
I don’t like the idea of shouting slurs at entire instances. In my view, if you hate those instances so much - just block them. Problem solved. No need to spew hate all over lemmy.
When hexbear federatedn with SJW, I spent a day arguing Russia invading is bad actually, North Korea isn’t a democratic utopia, and China isn’t a shining pillar of socialism. Then I blocked them all because that was exhausting. So idk if hexbear is still so tankie, but they definitely were at that point.
I have a very different experience. When Hexbear was still federated with the large instances it was total mayhem. They would turn every thread political, constantly spam images of dictators like Stalin and Mao, and swarm anyone who disagreed. I’ve seen them deny the wrongdoings of China and the Soviet Union quite often, which is probably also what’s necessary if you spam Mao and Stalin unironically.
I’m quite left of center myself, at least relative to most people I know in real life. But these people seemed totally insane. It was probably also a numbers game, since Hexbear was relatively large at the time compared to basically every other instance. So maybe this was just an annoying minority. But nevertheless I’d never purposefully go there, and I’d recommend anyone to stay away. It’s way better than for instance a Trumpist/far-right instance, but I’d rather avoid both.
I’m quite left of center myself
lol, every time.
I’m aware that to the far left everyone who doesn’t want to abolish capitalism is considered right wing. I mean the normal (Dutch) political spectrum. Social democratic
normal (white, western, neoliberal) political spectrum.
Brother you literally cannot be pro-capitalist and be left wing.
That does sound bad. If that was my experience, I guess I might actively try to avoid them too. But as it happens, I just rarely see any hexbear stuff anyway. So the fueling of cross-instance conflicts feels unnecessary and a bit icky to me.
I mean, most of the communities are on .world, and if they’re not federating with .world, they’re just not going to show up in the majority of comment sections.
But also, HB is much more of a communal space than most of the big instances, and much more aligned on how they engage with off-site content. And as the fediverse grows horizontally, a significant part of it probably going to be through focused instances, rather than more general purpose sites. We have those covered already, and most of the people interested in something like that aren’t going to leave Reddit anytime soon.
They have what they want.
This means there will be more “we don’t want to host this kind of content” discussions over time, not fewer. The fediverse will look more patchwork, not less.
You have to remember, the people making the tankie accusations consider anyone to the left of Joe Biden a tankie.
Try criticizing .ml on an .ml sub and you’ll start to taste the authoritarianism
I’d rather have the wild west of ideas over reddit. So I don’t mind em
The tankies are pretty bad on the world politics community on ml.
Based
Yep. The few I see are easily ignored. Or poked if you want to set them off.
Yes, welcome redditors to .world, which is trying to model itself as reddit 2.
Okay, but where is the instance that is trying to model itself after slashdot? (I feel old)
Best I can do is act like a slashdotter:
This general idea has already failed elsewhere. What you want can’t work.
Just point me to the Natalie Portman and hot grits.
It’s a bit like OSRS for reddit - an attempt to revive the reddit we all have very rose-tinted memories of. Unfortunately we seem to have forgotten about the the rampant casual misogyny, tribalism, moderator political infighting, that the 2007 XP rates were actually abysmally implemented and desperately needed retooling (and that deeply awkward “ron paul” phase reddit went through…)
So far, it’s quite refreshing. However I miss some of the smaller niche hobby subreddits, as fediverse hasn’t gained enough momentum yet. There are “channels” (?) that have like 300 people, and a post every other month, which is too small right now.
Lemmy.ml is the original instance and the dev instance. I joined it because there was literally no alternative at the time. It’s pretty annoying being called a tankie left and right because of this
It’s also because the devs are communists. Let’s not skip that part lol
Communist is not the same as tankie. Lemmy probably wouldn’t exist if the devs weren’t communist
I mean, they’re only not the same because “tankie” is so broadly defined that it also includes anarchists and non-western liberals.
The f-slur is defined as referring to gay men, but people also use it to insult straight men by suggesting that they’re gay. In the same way, “tankie” may be defined as a particular type of communist, but it is deployed against people who don’t fit the definition to imply that they do.
This is how basically all insults work, don’t play dumb. The definition is something assumed to be bad, and the way it’s used is to suggest the person meets that definition.
“tankie” is so broadly defined that it also includes anarchists and non-western liberals.
I’m referring to what they said, not some other insult.
I have to ask, are shitlibs aware that Wikipedia isn’t divine gospel, and that there are other works in the history of humanity? Because it seems to inevitably be their one and only go to, which is particularly embarrassing given that even a middle school teacher could tell you that it’s not a good source. Even worse, it doesn’t’ even back up your claim!
Yes it does. Wikipedia is a fairly neutral source. Middle school teachers will tell you that tertiary sources are a good way to start your research when you apparently have no idea what you’re talking about.
I get more and more liberal every time I see some self-described leftist call people a shitlib because they’re slightly right of Pol Pit or whatever.
All Tankies are Anarchists as long as that Anarchy is in a Western World Power.
They sensor criticism of the CCP
No they don’t, reasonable criticism of the CPC is fine, they just ban jinogistic “China bad! Tinyman square! Winnie the pooh!” nonsense.
Those are pretty tame criticisms of the CCP to ban, it sounds like you just made that user’s argument for them.
If your definition of communism is China and your definition of Capitalism is Western Power, then you’re a fucking Tankie, as 98% of self identifying communists on Lemmy are.
Yeah, that’s pretty unfair. You shouldn’t have to put up with this; and it definitely is not your fault, or the fault of the instance. This “tankie instance” thing is bullshit.
wHY DoN’t yOu chAnGe InSTanCe?
I did twice. Just let go of the past. Embrace the future.
It’s not about past or future, it’s about contributing to the instance that tests new releases first and helping the people that provide an alternative to mainstream centralized media
Same, looks like we are shady now.
everyone keeps telling me my instance is full of tankies but im not seeing it. when i made my account this was the only instance.
also, why the fuck would we want more redditors here?
I think there’s an instance on .ml that has everyone in a tizzy. I myself haven’t had any issue with .ml specifically. Lot of ‘mens rights’ bigots from .ee though, not sure why that is.
“An instance on .ml” you mean a community? Or you mean another domain name using the .ml top level domain? If it’s the latter, you probably mean lemmygrad.ml. If it’s the former, there are already quite a few communities on there which have a lot of subscribers and often appear in the “all” feed. Normally those are fine. But every now and then you’ll see some tankie comment and like 99% of the time it’s some user from that instance.
To be honest, I don’t pay a lot of attention other than to notice the ‘.ml’ and the vast majority of the time, I don’t notice any specific tanki-ness to people from there.
.ee on the other hand has been… (checks) yeah, all but one of my blocks in the last month.
Methinks there might be a culture war/defederation covert campaign being done by more right or even just regular liberal users.
That or I’m being paranoid.
also, why the fuck would we want more redditors here
Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.
“Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”
that is actually the reason I chose lemmy.ml direct support from the developers is cool
Same as a fellow code enthusiast, the dev instance seemed like a good choice. But no, do not pass go, straight to tankie jail apparently.
Are you now, or have you ever been, a member of the tankie triad?
It’s pretty insane that choosing the default instance is seen as being indicative of your politics
hey i just wanted to destroy capitalism 🥺 👉👈
Yea who cares about those little human rights violations and genocides the CCP does along the way, just sweep those under the rug!
Imagine believing that CCP is a good representative of destroying capitalism. Typical lib. smh.
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I’ve met people in reality who feel the same way as you, and I wanted to ask you something:
Wonder if our media that is largely Republican controlled and owned by Western billionaires could maybe have some anti-CCP bias
Why does that mean that China is good? Like I understand that specific things western media says could be wrong, but we have a hell of a lot of proof about what they’ve done. So what I don’t get is, sure media is owned by billionaires and corrupt, but why does that mean that the exact opposite is what’s true? Stalin/Nazi Germany and Hitler/Germany hated each other, constantly lied about each other, but that never meant that either of them were ‘good.’ So why does it apply here?
Stalin/Nazi Germany and Hitler/Germany hated each other, constantly lied about each other, but that never meant that either of them were ‘good.’
I mean, before Methler’s Operation Barbarossa, they were happily dividing the world up between themselves.
No state is good. It’s actually not good to make up lines on a map and violently control people according to it. The more violent (aka “powerful”) the state, the worse that it is. USA might be the worst.
Switch “Republican” with “coastal elite” and “anti-CCP” with “anti-conservative” and it’s the same old, tired bullshit.
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It does, but you’re really tripping if you don’t think the CCP commits egregious human rights abuses.
Tankies say that shit but they don’t mean it. They could easily support and promote socialism in Western Nations but they don’t, instead the promote people like Donald Trump and try to convince people to resort to violence to tear it all down.
To them, real socialism is the enemy. “Communism” just means Eastern Power and “Capitalism” just means Western Power, it’s political tribalism at its core.
Again, nobody’s talking about the porn instance.
But we all know about it
No we don’t; link, please.
Hot
OMG. I just discovered Lemmy yesterday after being a Redditor for a decade. I deleted my Reddit account after the insane level of suppression I’ve endured over the past year and was all set to go cold turkey when I found out about Lemmy! Praise the sweet lil’ six pound, eight ounce baby Jesus!!
Welcome! I am new too. Still getting adjusted to the federations and the “way” things are here.
Welcome! 🙂
Get the app: sync for Lemmy! It’s amazing
does that have profile pictures and stuff? I use Voyager and feel like I’m missing the full Lemmy experience
It does, yes. Display pics and display names.
ooo might need to check it out then. Thanks!
I can see profile pics on the mobile web version
Welcome 🤗
I see calling people “tankies” is the “woke” of the Fediverse.
Yeah I’m a bit lost on why someone’s instance automatically = their entire identity. Wouldn’t that means 1) technically we are all tankies on a tankie platform and 2) I need to start learning Finnish?
Yeah I randomly picked an instance when I created this account around a year ago, and these days I see people comment things like “lol of course you’re from .ml”.
I don’t even know what’s the difference between instances. And it’s not like we were given a whole lot of explanation when picking one.
Woohoo for tribalism
Lemmy.ml admins remove content critical of the CCP, and similar things. The admins of most other instances don’t do that shit.
Grad is much the same, while Hexbear is just 4chan for Stalinists.
No I know, but I’m not interacting with the admins of .ml, and I haven’t really seen anything from the average .ml user that isn’t your run of the mill leftist talking points I see all over Lemmy. They’re not censoring or banning me from posting Winnie the Pooh, you know? Your experience may be different.
I have no idea what grad and hexbear are, I’ve never seen those instances and I’m assuming my admin already defederated from them. They’re pretty reasonable in that regard.
Maybe I should learn Finnish in their honour…
They’re not censoring or banning me from posting Winnie the Pooh, you know? Your experience may be different.
I mean, unless you frequent .ml communities, they can’t censor or ban you.
That’s the thing though. Those .ml communities end up quietly curated to curb any criticism of the admins’ favorite authoritarians. Highlighting this fact is necessary, and participating in .ml communities is undesirable at best; those who still wish to do so should at least be informed as to what goes on.
Oh I see what you’re saying. I agree about the communities, but I was speaking more about the users from .ml getting blasted in communities outside .ml simply because they are from that instance (like in this thread).
If the users from there are participating in communities from outside that instance and following the rules, why does it matter if they’re from .ml? They’re not in the censored community, we’re not in the censored community, who cares what the .ml admin are doing?
If the users from there are participating in communities from outside that instance and following the rules, why does it matter if they’re from .ml?
Communities shape how people think and act. Normalizing bootlicking for authoritarian regimes causes those who participate in those communities to feel and reproduce that normalization. Not only that, but when grad and Hexbear were defederated by many instances, many users on Grad and Hexbear created accounts on .ml for the explicit purpose of continuing the authoritarian apologia they so enjoyed in the exact places that told them they weren’t welcomed. At some point, pattern recognition sets in, and it’s not inherently wrong for it to do so.
I don’t think every .ml user is an authoritarian. But if I see someone making authoritarian apologia, I’d say a good 4/5s of the time, it’s someone from .ml.
Communities shape how people think and act. Normalizing bootlicking for authoritarian regimes causes those who participate in those communities to feel and reproduce that normalization.
Sure, but only if they’re solely in those echo chambers, which if they’re posting in .world, they clearly aren’t. And any ones who do are told off because of the content of their posts, not their home servers.
I see quite a few inflammatory posters from .world and .ee (especially of the American exceptionalism, anti-Palestine, and more recently anti-Canadian (🤭) varieties) but I don’t automatically assume every single person on those servers hold those values. In fact, I think 9/10 comments I see you post specifically, PugJ, I agree with.
I had no idea about the Hexbear/lemmygrad lore though, I’ll definitely keep that in mind going forward.
Yeah, hexbear and .grad seem to be mostly tankie users, but it seems much more split on .ml. The admins are questionable, and I’ve seen tankies there disproportionally, but since it was the default instance for a long time, there are also a bunch of non-tankie users. I think lumping .ml in with hexbear and .grad really downplays just how bad those two are.
Anyone who disagrees with their narratives is banned in hexbear. Ml was the default for a while so loads of people on there who have no idea what a tankie even is.
you seem to be getting hexbear confused with .world
Dude, I got banned from hexbear also. Who cares? Let them run their instance the way they want. Instances are digital communes and should reflect the values of the members who are a part of it.
Not every instance is going to be for everyone. This is a good thing. That’s what the block function is for.
The feuders want the admins to dictate what you can and can’t see. One must question their motives considering there is a fully functional block feature at the user/community/instance level. Don’t like it? Block and move on. That’s all there should be to it.
No, it’s not how a platform should be run and I will continue pushing for better solutions and then using them.
The design is inherently limiting and stupid. You will just end up in the exact same situation as Reddit where a large percent of the discussion can be blocked at the will of some moron.
Nah, they’re authoritarian genocide deniers.
The opposite of woke.
What? Those are the three instant where I see the least denial of the US and Israels genocide, and the least bootlicking of western authoritarianism.
The opposite of western bootlicking is not Russian bootlicking.
The irony of this is that not being a western bootlicker does automatically make you a Russian bootlicker, according to the people complaining about the “tankie triad”.
Wow, practically in the same breath as asking me to believe Putin’s “de-nazification”.
Oh, so turns out you can deny genocides then? Oh right, only if it’s not the west making the accusation.
So you think you really want to argue Putin’s illegal invasion of Ukraine, all the warcrimes Russians are pulling, and you’re gonna defend that by saying Russians are the heroically invading Ukraine to save Ukraine?
Guess you haven’t yet understood the essence of Russian propaganda; deny and obfuscate, never actually answer anything.
Anyone actually engaging with any Russian propaganda knows it breaks down at the slightest touch.
I don’t want to take up the whole page with this, so I’ll just list the sub-headers;
Prohibited weapons, Abduction and deportation, Attacks on civilians, Unlawful wanton destruction or appropriation of property, Attacks on hospitals and medical facilities, Destruction of energy infrastructure, Destruction and theft of cultural heritage, Torture of civilians, Use of human shields, Sexual violence, Looting, Forced conscription, Mistreatment of prisoners of war, Genocide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_in_the_Russian_invasion_of_Ukraine
We all know Ukraine is the good side. They may have some baddies on their side (one battalion of crazy fucks), but Russia has way more companies filled with rapists, thieves, murderers taken out of prisons and shipped to the front.
Kindly fuck of to the front lines to feed the drones so we don’t need to hear from you anymore.
The USA, Israel, Russia, and China all support genocide.
Now you say it.
Ok senator McCarthy, not sure what that has to do with what I said. While you’re here, will you also condemn Ukraine’s Donbas genocide?
No, I mean it’s the new / local meme word to shut off conversation. And apparently used pretty much the same way right-wingers use it.
Ah! Yeah, that’s true
It’s 2025, everyone is both doing genocide and is denying genocide all of the time. Unfortunately that word no longer has any meaning.
It does have a definition though and there is still power in that.
Yes everyone is aware of this power so are using the word as a propaganda tool to further their causes. And everyone is aware that the word is being used as a propaganda tool.
The scary part is that by watering down the meaning of the word, it’s made actual genocide more likely. If everyone is constantly being accused of genocide all of the time then no one will know when an actual genocide is happening.
If everyone is constantly being accused of genocide all of the time then no one will know when an actual genocide is happening.
If you can do something as simple as compare numbers (a skill taught in elementary school), you can know when genocide is happening, regardless of what other people around you try to weasel about what they believe the term to be.
I’ve been called a tankie in the same posts where I criticize the USSR and Russia, or when I say China isn’t inherently good or evil.
Tankies are to liberals what woke is to Republicans. Taking a term invented by a community, reclaiming it, giving it a new definition only used by them.
There’s a shit ton of far-right and Sinophobic people on .world. They can’t abide anything that isn’t in line with whatever the CIA is saying.
In the past week I caught a 7 day ban for “misinformation” (x3, then for reposting a link to the mod logs, “skirting the rules”, “repeated offenses” etc.) from /c/WorldNews for accusing Democrats of being complicit in the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. An actual fact - tens of billions of dollars in arms sent to an ongoing genocide/ethnic cleansing by Biden. No problems like that on lemmy.ml. That really says it all for me. Lemmy’s basically just a fediverse reddit, with the same mod structure - if mods abuse their power, and admins don’t keep them in check, it’s time to ditch the instance.
By the way, Lemmy itself was created by Dessalines, the admin of lemmy.ml. Who I collaborated with briefly on building some of the UI that you’re using right now to read this. Very thorough guy.
I caught a 7 day ban in microblog memes for “whataboutism” after I pointed out that leftists were not responsible for the democrat’s loss, their actions would have been wildly unpopular whether we told them or not.
.world needs a targeted marketing campaign, we just need to point to the very public mod log. The mods at .world do all the work for us lol.
“/c/” doesn’t tell us much. I assume you mean !worldnews@lemmy.ml or !worldnews@lemmy.world? Try !world@quokk.au
https://lemmy.world/c/world actually.
I meant that one, my bad
And if you ask people if they’re pro-Putin and pro-Russia and against Russian crimes against humanity, you’ll get banned faster than you can say “Синдром вахтёра”
Goes for Lemmy.ml and some reason Midwest.social as well.
Edit Case in point after writing this comment angry lil’ Ruskitos brigade me and use all their mod power and remove comments like
this I’ve made. Very “incivil” to call out Russian disinfo. KekIf you go on there concern trolling and trying to start shit, I bet you will get banned.
But, fun fact, communists actually are not a fan of fascists.
I didn’t.
I simply pointed out that davel@lemmy.ml saying things like “reality has a well known Russian propaganda bias” would be extremely weird for an actual “red blooded, born&bred American”, which he claims to be.
So he just as an American patriot learned to speak Russian and won’t answer the question of “are you pro-Russian” while actively pushing Russian propaganda?
communists actually are not a fan of fascists
Fun fact, both are totalitarian authoritarianist forms as OF now.
We’ll check again about communism when we get to Star Trek levels of utopia, mkay?
So he just as an American patriot
Someone can be born & raised in America and yet not be patriotic to the American empire. We’re not uncommon.
learned to speak Russian
What are you even talking about? You don’t have to learn Russian to listen to Jeffery Sachs, John Mearsheimer, Noam Chomsky or Chris Hedges.
communists actually are not a fan of fascists
Fun fact, both are totalitarian authoritarianist forms as OF now.
The communists fought the Spanish and Axis fascists, and horseshoe theory is garbage.
Oh yeah, Americans who spew Russian propaganda purposefully and constantly talk of “the West” and have issues with their grammar and English expressions are “born&bred” Americans?
Hmm… I wonder, which is more common? A “born&bred red-blooded American who’s devoted to Putin and Russia” … OR… a lying Russian? Hmm. Being a Finnish person, we have some history with Russia, and I can tell you for a fact that lying Russians are more commonplace than Americans who are fanatically devoted to Russia and say things like “reality has a well known Russian propaganda bias”.
It’s genuinely hilarious how you don’t realise how fucking see-through you are. It’s like watching a toddler play kitchen and then make you eat their “food”. It’s hilariously cute, but in a very stupid way. So you play along while allowing them their silliness. I’m not debating you, I’m playing with you.
’“Russian propaganda doesn’t exist. But reality has a well known Russian propaganda bias. Although Russian propaganda doesn’t exist. And definitely not on the internet. And definitely not on Lemmy. I’m a born&bred American btw, trust me comrades. Don’t vote, by the way. Also, did you know that Ukraine is filled with Nazis and thus we should thank glorious Putin for his courageous leadership in his special military operation. Btw Russian propaganda doesn’t exist. And I’m American. Спаси Бог.”
You’re kinda stretching it there.
I’m really not, and that’s why it’s hilarious. You know, if it weren’t so serious.
Sure thing, Patrick Bateman’s fursona 👍
Too bad you guys don’t have better education.
This feels like having a boxing match with a 12-year old; really unsporting.
How many people do you know who’ve lost family/friends in the meatgrinder Putin is putting them into? And you’re too much of a coward to do anything about it, actually going out of your way to perpetuate the status quo.
Eww.
I’m still not banned and I have been critical of russia and support Ukraine. Everybody Sucks Here
General sentiment doesn’t matter. It’s when you, for example, point out that davel@lemmy.ml is a Russian disinformation agent. He is literally Russian, he’s cleaned up his profiles now, but when I started looking into that account I found several alts on other instances with communication in Russian. Like there wasn’t even a hint of suspicion if he was Russian or not.
But davel@lemmy.ml account adamantly insists that they are American “born and bred”, while still literally saying Putin is right to invade Ukraine, denying Uyghyr genocide, denying Russian war crimes, posted tons in the run up to the US presidential election about “don’t vote genocide joe” and all that “avoid voting no matter what” bullshit as an intentional push to instigate apathy in American voters to decrease voter turnout.
Him, antioutsideaktion, it’s rather trivial to recognise them.
And the simplest way is to ask them “are you pro-Russian”. Davel is afraid of answering it, despite clearly and vocally supporting Russian propaganda, even going so far as to literally say “reality has a well known Russian propaganda bias”. I mean, literally.
And after saying that, he still won’t say he’s Russian. And pretends to be American? What a patriot, right?
He’s a mod so he banned me from everywhere he could. Nowadays he doesn’t really even dare to participate on lemmy.world so I don’t engage him. :D
“Look at me, look at me. I am the moderator now.”
Uyghyr genocide
Lol
53·15 days agoHe’s a mod so he banned me from everywhere he could
Goes to check modlog
History of misgendering/trolling
It’s a ban on midwest.social, not even .ml
Misgenders unapologetically
blahaj
I haven’t misgendered anyone. Go ahead and read the thread. :)
Nice whataboutism though.
Guess you’re a salty Russian.
Lol lemmy.ml and hexbear from your emoji https://lemmy.ml/api/v3/image_proxy?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hexbear.net%2Fpictrs%2Fimage%2F7bdbc255-05e5-4922-92d9-59cdc7686f1a.png “emoji agony”
So yeah, you’re not gonna admit to Russian crimes against humanity either.
Hope you’re gonna get called to the frontlines to feed the flowers. <3
Davel banned me like 9 months ago you’re even lazy in your trolling
Despite saying Davel banned you from “everywhere he could”, you haven’t been permanently banned from .ml, despite the fact that clearly you should have been
He banned me as much as he could, let’s put it that way.
Because I called him out for larping a “born&bred red-blooded American” as he’s very clearly Russian.
He, like you, can’t actually answer a simple yes or no question. Did Russia break international law with it’s war of aggression invading the sovereign state of Ukraine, and is still there to this day, committing horrific war crimes? Y/N?
Love everything about reddit but inexplicably wish to leave it?
Hate the idea of an english speaking internet that doesn’t slavishly adhere to the party line of the US alphabet agencies?
Do you think the parable of the nazi bar is bunch of hokum?
Do you have shrieking anger towards people who refused to support genocide while having shrieking anger at (usually the same) people rejecting decades long debunked accusations of genocide made by the perpetrators of aforementioned genocide?
Join the lemmyverse! We have racism! We have homophobia! We have trans misogyny! We have daily 5 minutes hate!
And if anyone tells you different, have you considered they’re a paid shill by the notorious gay sex haver Putler??
We have Ukrainian/Uyghur genocide denial!
Remember, if the US accuses someone of genocide, you have to believe them! Donbas genocide is just propaganda though, and Gaza isn’t that bad.
Nothing says holocaust denial more than deliberately watering down the term ‘genocide’
Trump isn’t a fascist, y’all leftists are just over-reacting, stop watering down the term “fascism” /s
Trump is a fascist and so are you. He’s just less of one because he could put his own personal political interests above doing a genocide whereas you were willing to lose an election to go full bore.
everone knows you join instances based on how funny the @ is, duh
Am I winning?
And you picked that?
it’s funny that .zip is a domain, yes. I can’t imagine it gets used for anything other than email scams
.rar isn’t a domain yet is it? Lol
Exactly
Everyone knows those rules don’t apply when youre dunking on the instances with opinions outside of the US state department’s approved overton window.
Incivility is only when you call out liberal hypocrisy and .world, otherwise it’s sparkling marketplace of ideas.
Ah yes, wise words UnderpantsWeevil, .worlds very own resident tankie
There are some real weirdos here that have this as the major part of their personality.
How else are they going to find an audience for their huge list of irrelevant copy-pasted bullet points?
Like that guy with the Buckies profile pic? lol I see him everywhere
