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So the people who screamed about the scary, scary BLM protesters rioting due to what they (rightly) viewed as a miscarriage of justice now think rioting should happen because of what they (wrongly) view as a miscarriage of justice.
As usual, it’s okay with they do it.
Everything. Is. A. Projection.
Literally everything. They’re afriad of Land Back because they fear the Native peoples will take the land the same way the founders of America took it. They’re afraid of equality because they think when Black people do better it must mean they themselves will be worse off because they cant imagine wealth without exploitation, the way they used to make wealth for themselves.
They took their stupid shot on Jan 6th and then they realized they were mostly larpers. Projection to the point of action.
They took their first (arguably second after Charlottesville or the Bible photo op BS) shot on Jan 6. Don’t think there won’t be a second attempt. They view this guy as a messiah and they view themselves as religious. Him not getting what they want is a dangerous combination. He’s already shown the “greater good” has no place in his world.
Jan 6th protestors didn’t even come armed… lol smh
Jan 6th protestors didn’t even come armed
Actually
somemany were armed.For some, it wasn’t without trying
It was just a prank bro
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It’s kind of wild actually. When Trump talks about this case being “fixed,” and the judge as being “corrupt,” he’s telling us exactly what’s going on in his other trial with Trump appointee and person with no prior trial experience (if I recall correctly) before being appointed to her seat on (looks at notes) huh, the “United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida.”
Wait a second…
“But this time the guy was
whiterichRepublicaninnocent!”And if they make that argument, I’ll tell them that means they believe people are “guilty until proven innocent” and don’t deserve a trial by a jury of their peers, which is as unAmerican an idea as you can get.
Not going to be useful. They don’t want a democracy, they don’t want a justice system. They want a king and the ability to use state power to shit on other people.
Trust me, I am in Indiana. I’m surrounded by these flag-waving morons. You call them unAmerican and they lose their shit. And all I have to do is pull up the Bill of Rights.
Either PBS or NPR had a thing a few years back where they’d read sections of the Bill of Right on air, as part of Independence Day celebrations.
The right wing folks who heard it thought it was communist propaganda.
Do they not still do that? I’ve had to listen to a lot less NPR since my daughter decided I’m not allowed to listen to the radio in the car.
I get all this talk about their rights yet they seem so fundamentally opposed to me having mine.
These people are terrible citizens.
No argument from me. As the person above said, they don’t want a democracy or a justice system. They are as bad a citizen you can get without actively sending classified information to a rival power.
They’re downright bad people too. They dont get to do a few good deeds while trying to use political power to do away with human life and human rights without being called the moster they are.
I love getting called a liberal pussy by civilian clowns that have never served a day. Pretty sure the government trained me to kill.
No, according to DJT, “very innocent”, which is as reassuring as “a little bit pregnant”.
“Yeah but this is totes different thing!!!?!?!”
Well… that’s true. In this case, the person who got charged actually went through the court system rather than being murdered by a cop.
Which seems… fairer?
Yes. That’s literally the platform. They say whatever they have to to cover their asses because all they really care about it being able to do whatever they want while forcing everyone else to do live by their rules.
They don’t care when you point this out because that is their goal. They’re shameless about it.
Like I said, I’m surrounded by these idiots. They hate it when you suggest they aren’t real Americans.
They know in their hearts that they are Loyalists. Call them the red coats that they are.
You’ve got to remember, they don’t view the BLM reasons as miscarriages of justice. Because they’re morons.
Funny how they’re calling for riots instead of going to the streets and rioting.
I wonder if they remember what happened to them the last time they tried that shit 🤔.Pepperidge farm remembers. The crowd that was all about “back(ing) the blue” managed to kill a police officer and four of themselves.
There are a lot of armchair generals on the Internet. Unfortunately not limited to the Republican side of things.
But the Republican ones tend to be bigger hypocrites since they usually condemn rioting when anyone else does it, especially if they aren’t white.
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These are likely the same ones that pushed 1/6 and spent a lot of time telling people to do it.
The reason they’re still doing that, is they weren’t the ones to actually show up.
They’re not gonna stop doing it, because they didn’t get any consequences from last time.
All they gotta do is keep making these posts saying someone should do something. And chances are some idiots will do it.
Like, remember that main old guy from American History X?
He got naive kids to do the dirty work, so he was able to spend decades doing it without any consequences.
For real life example, just look at Alex Jones. How long it took for him to even go to court, and how he’s still not in jail or paying any judgements.
But he’s still running his mouth and telling others to do the work.
This was abundantly clear to everyone on January 6th. It was so blatant that, at the time, most conservatives claimed the entire event was actually undercover BLM and “Antifa”.
Then the convictions showed it truly was all Trump supporters, and now none of them are talking about it.
These morons want a king. Can’t even reflect for 5 seconds and think the guilty verdict is because he committed a crime.
Plural.
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I’ll take the downvotes and agree with you. If it had been a single check instead of a dozen it would be like 3 charges instead of 36. The chargeable counts are sort of arbitrary. It was serval falsified records as part of a single coverup.
Being pedantic is about making this look maximally bad for trunk to try to cost him votes. The onus is not on you to play that game if you don’t want to.
But also you could’ve just not taken the bait here and saved us both the downvotes.
Edit: deleted? You fucking coward. Own your opinions. Just because people don’t like what you have to say doesn’t mean you’re wrong. It’s just fucking downvotes! (intended lightheartedly)
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I upvoted. You can call it a garbage opinion. All I did was agree it was unnecessary pedantic. If you think that’s garbage then fine you’re entitled to that opinion. Fuck you, but you’re entitled to your opinion.
I might have had some mimosas today.
They are absolutely delusional. I went to the cesspool that is /r/conservative, hoping, PRAYING for people to respond like normal human beings on reading news like that.
Nope.
None of this.
Complete delusion, with select quotes:
“He still has my vote”
“Liars! Liars on the witness stand. This poor man does not deserve this”
Americans are a different breed altogether.
And in the same breath scream “1776!”.
Redcoats, all of them.
Nah, they’re Confederates. This is the South trying to rise again, as they always said they would. They cannot be allowed to.
The South must rise anew.
The Confederates didn’t want to appoint a king.
They’re not just in the South anymore either. They probably wouldn’t admit they want a king, even though you’re right. But it’s the same movement regardless. They are the children of the Confederacy, attempting to bring it back.
So terrorists.
I looked at /r/conservative last night and it was not good for my mental health. Thousands of commenters all agree it was a sham trial that he will win on appeal and that this will only earn him votes.
The last two things, they may be right about and that’s terrifying.
They don’t even realize that that’s not how appeals work. It’s not just “the appellate court says acquittal,” there needs to A) have been a failure in the legal process which B) would have been impactful on the jury’s verdict during the first trial for an appeal to be successful. Appellate courts only address the legal process. An appellate court would only get into addressing the facts of the case if there was an absolutely glaring smoking gun to point to some evidence or testimony having been false.
You know, like Allen Weisselberg does when he testifies.
Even if an appellate court was to side with Trump’s appeal, that just means it goes back to the lower court to be tried again, unless the DA goes “yeah, forget it.”
My favorite is the ones crying about how America has fallen into nazism because… Trump got convicted of a crime with overwhelming evidence of it.
And its especially funny considering how down with nazism they have been until its conversationally convenient to suddenly cry about the evil nazi persecution.
At least he can only appeal all the at to the State Supreme Court so the fedsoc six can’t fuck with it.
He’ll try to get it to the us supreme court though, probably arguing that because the fraud was on a us election it’s a federal matter.
Those are mostly bots or paid Russian actors
How do we know that? Absolutely some are but I have no idea what the ratio is
They said mostly. I know a few Trump supporters. They’ll all agree with each other that it was a sham trial, but it wont amount to anything. They peaked with January 6th and even that was pathetic compared to real revolutions from history.
If there actually was a real Revolution they’d get wiped out pretty quickly. At some level they actually do know that or at least the brighter ones do.
They won’t do anything for the same reason that most Russians won’t do anything about Putin. Actually putting your life on the line is a pretty big ask, and most of them wouldn’t dare do it.
I think the scenario is flipped between Russians and US Republicans. Russians don’t protest because they don’t know how bad they have it. There were occupying Russians in Ukraine who didn’t know what “automatic” toilets were. They only knew the manual ones where you brought in a bucket of water to pour in to flush the toilet, but because most adults in Russia only know Putin’s Russia, they believe all the propaganda.
US Republicans don’t know how good they have it because their propaganda is based on the world being a Zero Sum Game and any rights minorities gain means that loose equivalent rights. Legalizing Gay Marriage means their Cis Marriage has less value. But they don’t really think they have it that bad. They wont admit it, but they have too much to loose with a revolution. They may want one, but they aren’t willing to actually put themselves in harms way. Why do you think they all freaked the hell out over Ashli Babbitt being shot dead? None of them actually understand that that’s what a real Revolution entails.
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Loose: when you no longer wear a belt
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If there actually was a real Revolution they’d get wiped out pretty quickly.
Not sure if serious… wipe out by who, exactly?
Themselves.
On more than one occasion in my life, they’ve been told not to drink bleach to cure diseases. Disinfo has a cost, and our (somewhat) stable and (somewhat) educated society is bearing the brunt of it right now. When they can’t get to doctors, or they resort to prayer and holistic medicine for mortal wounds and illness, their herd will start to thin dramatically.
Police, armed forces, themselves. Every time far right forces push out an “other” group, they stater othering each other.
So you agree… that wasn’t an act of revolution or insurrection?
It was a feeble attempt at an insurrection by a bunch of soft skin, small minded cucks who have daddy issues. None of those people have actually suffered a fraction what they think they have.
Russians took over the mod positions way back. That was enough to ensure the narrative is maintained.
I dunno it’s reddit, really hard to tell which are real people over there
Who do you think was “on the fence” about Trump but now that he is a convicted felon is now definitely convinced Trump is their guy?.. because this is the only way he gets more votes after the conviction
I don’t know. It might convince some elderly or very young idiots that their vote is more important than ever and increase turnout. But I have no idea. I’m just terrified of another term of trump. He would end the United States’ chance of improving any time soon.
As opposed to… lol Biden? You do realize we’re at the verge of losing relations that benefit the U.S., right? With Biden and those like Biden running things, the Global South will be the new power house of the world.
You’re saying that the potential for the economic development of historically exploited colonies under Biden is a more grave risk than the potential end of democracy in America under Trump?
Trump did a lot to alienate allies too, way more than Biden has a far as I know. You really are clueless.
Congrats on winning the “weirdest take of the day” award today
They move the goalpost at every turn.
I remember when they said he’d win big in 2020. I remember when they said he wouldn’t be indicted. Next it’s some other silly line in the sand. They’re not exactly great prognosticators.
They call it a sham but I ask, where is the proof? There is, of course, zero.
It’s in New York tho!?! Checkmate, libturds
I haven’t been to that sub, but is there any way to estimate how many there are Russian operatives or bots? I’m guessing this conviction will be fertile fodder for encouraging uprisings amongst Trumpies.
I’ve no idea.
Yeah, what’s been going on this whole time with Trump is gaslighting. It’s extremely bad for all of our mental health.
Our nation is sick, and the first bit of medicine we need is some semblance of justice for one of the most renown white collar criminals to ever hit the American spotlight:
Trump must be published for his crimes. If he is not, then America and the entire world is at risk of destabilizatiom.
I would agree with you. It is quite shocking to read conservative opinions on this though. None of them have a fucking clue what he did wrong but they’re all sure it was rigged.
He’s not going to win on appeal unless the case gets moved to Canon’s district.
At what point do we consider Trump voters as terrorists? Waiting until they actually kill people or destroy everything doesn’t sound like a good idea.
Voters? Never.
Supporters who organize to commit acts of terror like shutting down local libraries via threats of violence? Now. We should be doing that now.
I didn’t fight shit heads in Iraq just to have more shit heads do it here.
Enemies, foreign and domestic…
Why did you fight shit heads in Iraq?
That’s a deep question. But I’m in a mood tonight so fuck it. I got there because I was young and well indoctrinated. I stayed there and went back because Saddam and AQ were massive assholes the locals didn’t deserve. I left because my body couldn’t handle the physicality of the job anymore. At no point was I looking at that stuff going, “you know the one thing we don’t have at home is religious zealots planting bombs, we need more of that!”
The people here who want to fight you herehad a hand in installing those s*** heads in Iraq.
Yeah I know. We knew when they announced Bremer’s orders. Then we got home and found out just how much lying went into starting the war and it became obvious they wanted a forever war. If they had won the election in 2008 they would have found some way to destabilize Iraq again, not knowing ISIS was just around the corner.
Didn’t they march inside some important government building and try to overthrow an election at some point?
They’ve also interrupted public life with threats of violence related to their religion and politics. They have been past the line for awhile and any vet who dealt with the reality of terror campaigns over seas can recognize this trajectory. If we don’t start enforcing this stuff soon we’re going to have our own version of Al Qaida policing our lives.
I tell people as often as I can, especially my trans and bipoc friends; now is the time. Get a couple guns (a long one and a short one) and learn how to use them. Learn some basic first aid, you really just need to know how to stabilize someone. Start networking with like-minded people in your communities.
The police will not protect you, they’ve proven they’ll happily club senior citizens to the ground and shoot any protesters in the face with rubber bullets while escorting a rightwing murderer to safety.
Iran was a secular, liberal monarchy until almost 1980 when they (mostly) elected an Islamist theocracy; it could happen here.
It’s hard for me to recommend that because what most people don’t know is the political violence in Iraq reached levels that would have been a civil war if not for the coalition’s presence. And having watched that level of violence once in my life I’m really hoping we can elect someone that puts the government to work stopping this violent far right theocracy movement. On the other hand I can’t in good faith deny anyone the basic tools I had to defend myself in that situation. I just know that every gun in the mix makes violence more likely and violence only begets more violence. If this kicks off we’ll need a real focus on deprogramming and welcoming people back into the normal population. The zero tolerance approach just doesn’t work, you can’t shoot an idea. Only defend yourself from the person who believes it.
Spoken like a person with absolutely no skin in the game. Talking it out is great but what happens when that doesn’t work? What happens when the next one successfully takes power and the congress and judiciary side with them?
Fascists love pacifists committed to talking things out.
Don’t forget planned to murder every Democrat, Republican who didn’t do what they wanted, and the Vice President.
“HANG MIKE PENCE!”
I guarantee the crime rate of maga is greater than the undocumented immigrant population. We already know undocumented immigrants commit less crime than native-born Americans as a whole.
Not paying attention to NYC, huh?
Nobody tell this guy the population-adjusted crime rate of rural white republican Appalachia…
Or that violent crime is at a 50 year low under Biden.
*Citation not found
In my news podcasts, “Crime has reached a fifty year low.”
(Go outside to my peaceful quiet neighborhood)
My pro-Trump neighbor, “Crime is out of this world!”
I sometimes just pause and consider what their life must be like… constant paranoia, fear, worry… all over things that aren’t occurring.
Your comment is the same.
Waiting for them to actually commit a crime is usually necessary.
There have been crimes committed. Armed men have shut down kids events with violent threats. Where’s the arrests?
Good question. If there aren’t arrests perhaps there were no crimes. Just things you want to be crimes.
Are terroristic threats not a crime?
Oh look they are!
So what is your expert legal theory for why no crime was charged then?
The cops are on their side.
I’ve always considered them as such.
I already consider them to be terrorists. Maybe not all trump supporters. but, there’s definitely a lot that are.
Oh no, they are not terrorists. I know because the cops told me they are very fine people.
Was it the cops saying that, or mostly just the Commander In Thief? It certainly wasn’t all cops.
If you beat cops up you are a terrorist. If you beat up the same people the cops like to murder, you are a very fine person.
After Jan 6 I’d say now. Now is good.
Even if they did do a terrorism and kill people, they’d probably just blame it on trans people and get away with it.
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. - Francis M. Wilhoit
I was convicted on 34 felony counts
-donald trump
BUt iT WaS a shAm TrIAl!
And the world was shocked because he is someone the law protects but does not bind.
Trump is currently being protected by Supreme Court justices who are literally deciding whether he’s bound by any law. You can bet that same conservative majority would make sure he’s protected by all of them.
Great, let the rioters expose themselves, then lock them up.
You don’t expect the cops to lock themselves up,do you?
, and then nothing happened because they’re all a bunch of piss babies.
they’re all a bunch of piss babies
Just because his supporters are wearing diapers because Trump convinced them to doesn’t mean you need to call them babies, no? 😂
They’re just happy they finally have an excuse.
Sucklin’ weans, the lot of 'em. 🤌🏾
They can still go after schools.
…thus showing that the “Law and Order” party was never about law, they just want a particular kind of order- that is, a hierarchy wherein people below them on the status-ladder know not to try to hold them accountable to anything, including the law or even plain decency.
To them, the law is the cudgel to keep the poors and plebes in their place- low in the order- never to be applied to them.
That’s Republicanism and that left the US Republican Party years ago.
Now it’s all about Conservatism through any means. And it’s not even pure Conservatism: it’s heavily tainted with Tribalism.
Conservativism is, by its nature, tribal. The two can’t be separated.
They want their perceived enemies to make the first move. They might be calling for violence, but many of them are cowards and also love to play victim and win the sympathy Olympics.
I would not be surprised in the slightest if the right performed a false flag as justification for further violence.
No, they know that Trump supporters are the types of people to actually listen to and heed these calls.
This is stochastic terrorism straight up… Or is just flat out terrorism, they’re not really hiding it. This is the spokesperson of a “social media platform” (lol I know I know) saying this, not just some random casual Fox News watching R voter.
And he knows exactly who he’s talking to. It’s a clear attempt to mobilize.
Goddamn people must really be this stupid. I guess we just need to experience this pain first hand like Germany before we fully grasp what we are allowing to take hold of our government.
But even looking at them these days, it seems like 80-100 years is all it takes for everyone to start forgetting…
Edit: Came back after some thinking and realizing that the communications director for Truth Social probably literally is just some random Fox News watching R. Just not casual I guess.
I hope they do it, and get arrested and convicted so they can’t vote.
Yeah, and I guess the trans people that end up dead in the balance will just be considered sacrifical lambs then?
It’s ok though, we’ll make sure to use the correct pronouns at their wakes.
That’s an odd take. But I guess you do you.
Can I show up to their riots carrying a George Floyd sign and just feign ignorance about what’s being protested? Over/under on getting shot? (I’m white so factor that into the odds.)
40/60, but you better be so white that even Casper the friendly ghost calls you a cracker, and you have sworn eternal
entityenmity towards the sunEnmity
I wrote that twice. Autocorrect has foiled me again.
Those are some risky odds. I’m going to see what materializes locally protest-wise.
That seems like a great way to invite someone to follow you home
Favourite part of the whole article:
A spokesperson for Truth Social said, “It’s hard to believe that Reuters, once a respected news service, has fallen so low as to publish such a manipulative, false, defamatory and transparently stupid article as this one purely out of political spite.”
“You never saw what you thought you saw. And even if you did, it was entirely justified and your interpretation was extreme.”
reject the evidence of your eyes and ears
Ah yes, totally the views of a neutral, third party company that’s just trying to compete with Twitter.
Fuck around & find out, chuds.
