Super Mario Bros (1993)
This is mine too!
It’s absolutely INSANE, nothing like the games and somehow it still works in a weird way for me - and somehow still manages to show more love/respect to the source material than some other adaptations I’ve seen (even while being nothing like the source material)!
For anyone that hasn’t looked into the behind the scenes of this movie, you NEED to!
The crew openly wore custom made shirts shitting on the directors, the actors were drunk most of the time, Leguizamo had his leg broken on set! … Haskins was stabbed FOUR times, electrocuted, drowned AND had his finger broken [anytime you see him holding something over his hand, it’s likely because he was hiding the cast]! Mario Mario had a lot of reasons to be so grumpy!
Hey, what can I say? The mushroom kingdom is a dangerous place.
Came here to say this. It’s a great movie, even if it’s ridiculous.
Dennis hopper was just crushing it back in the day.
So far ahead of the curve with the Isekai Sci-Fi Dystopia…
I always bring this one up in the “so bad it’s good” conversations
TRON: Legacy, although “terrible” might be bit harsh on it. I first watched the movie when I had a fever of 103 and it was perfect for that.
All-time great movie soundtrack, though.
That’s my favorite music video
The Grid; a digital frontier
What am I supposed to do?
Survive
I wouldn’t call it arguably terrible. It’s not everyone’s cup of tea but it’s decent movie. Not great, but decent.
And since Tron Jared Leto lowered the bar, it looks even better.
Have you tried the latest one?
No, been debating it. I keep hearing it’s worse.
Oh it’s bad. You’ll guess the main plot about two minutes in and it never waves from that. The movie ends and you won’t remember anyone’s names or even what most of them look like.
Great music video though. Watch with a good sound system and a big OLED TV. The experience on a little phone or laptop screen with tinny speakers is going to be a 1/10.
It is
Very entertaining.
A little short on Olivia Wilde, though, which was an amazing feature of Legacy.
The Boondocks Saints
There was a moment in the pitch meeting when the producers read, “then Willem Dafoe dresses up like a female prostitute to seduce the guards”, and they were like yeah, let’s fuckin make this movie.
Came here to say this!
Like a poor man’s Lock Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels. I loved it too.
Hudson Hawk, Bruce Willis’ longtime passion project where he and Danny Aiello play singing cat burglars.
I genuinely love it despite it not being very good at all. Saw it in the theater knowing nothing at all about it.
God that movie is awful. I love it.
Bunny! Ball ball!
I didn’t even know it was considered bad.
Street Fighter
It’s terrible. Almost nobody can act. I suspect none of the writers had even looked at the game beyond a few screenshots. The script and plot are laughable.
But then Raul Julia shows up. He knows this is crap. But his kids love the games. He’s literally dying of stomach cancer in every scene. He knows this is his last movie. He’s going to fucking enjoy it, and so are you.
For you it’s a guilty pleasure, for others it’s just Tuesday.
“Quick, change the channel!”
That was beautiful *cries*
Freddy Got Fingered. It’s a hysterical mess.
“Daddy would you like some sausage.”
I think the reason the movie exists is because Tom green just needed an excuse to jerk off a horse.
Proud
Its crazy how big of a deal Tom Green became and how quickly it all faded away.
Troll 2
There’s even a documentary about how bad it is.
What do you love about it
Not an actual troll to be found anywhere. So awesome.
The documentary about the film is amazing
leprachaun movie, hilariously bad.
And compared to Birdemic, it is bad in a good way.
I mean, you shouldn’t piss on hospitality like that.
I was not prepared for how incredibly boring Birdemic would be. The second half is hilarious but the first half drags impossibly long. For a movie about birds killing people, the birds don’t even show up until I think 47 minutes of this maybe 80 minute movie? I mean there’s the occasional laugh in the first half. That poster that was just a piece of printed paper taped to a wall with Yoko Ono’s website URL right next to that couple making out. I quote “she’s my hot Ferrari” on occasion. But it just wasn’t enough to justify half the movie being a romcom starring the most uncomfortable writing I’ve ever witnessed in film 😭 The director said he wanted this to be a “romantic thriller” but I’m not sure if he understood that you can tie two genres together at once…
The Core
It’s so fucking stupid that it is like a Trainwreck you can’t look away from.
And I love it. Its the core or the martian if you don’t know what to watch.
Matrix Reloaded.
Actually, people didn’t like both Reloaded and Revolutions. I think with what the lore was going with, they served the series right. I just think people had a hard time following what they were about.
I can’t defend Resurrections though.
I think the issue with the sequels was there was quite a bit of lore to consume and you honestly didn’t get the full picture if you only watched reloaded and resurrections.
What I mean by this is that the Wachowskis were very much involved in pretty much everything that involved the matrix be it the animatrix, the video games, or the comics and encyclopedia. So with the sequels in particular if you wanted to at least try and get a grasp on what was happening you pretty much had to watch at least the first 3 shorts of the Animatrix and especially “Kids Story” and play Enter The Matrix as they were all official canon and in many cases important to the story. So I mean unless you were a die hard Matrix fan you probably weren’t going to watch the animatrix or play the game then you might be left in the dark.
Like for example the “Kid” that is introduced in reloaded. He makes a big deal out of being saved to which Neo, says twice, that he didn’t save him and that the kid saved himself. It’s not expanded on in the movies. So you’re thinking “ok…maybe Neo is doubting his nature of being the one” but we know he isn’t as he openly flaunts his power within the Matrix. It’s not until you watch the Animatrix Short “Kids Story” which explains WHY Neo says that Kid saved himself and then it opens up an entire can of worms that actually helps you understand the ending of Reloaded and Revolutions. Kids Story is so damn pivotal to the overall lore of the Matrix and most people have never even seen nor heard of it.
I’m not even joking. The Animatrix is absolutely a must watch if you want to understand the Matrix movies.
As far as Resurrections goes…yeah it didn’t serve a purpose other than Lana utilizing it as a form to cope with her parents deaths and to at least have a bit of control over her series as Warner Brothers was going to move forward with a sequel regardless if she and/or sister were involved or not. And again it’s another part of the overall lore which you won’t truly get unless you played The Matrix Online as it borrows quite a few elements/plot points from that. But the story itself is by far the weakest out of all of them as it simply didn’t need to happen. like, at all. And even by the end of the movie you realize this because absolutely NOTHING changes. Nothing. No one wins, no one loses, things don’t change. Everything is the exact same except Neo and Trinity are awake instead of sleeping. that’s it.
I won’t disagree that the Wachowskis had a weird way of piecing together the story. Not to mention, all of this stuff was released in one year which is impressive but also made things very convoluted.
exactly. And keep it mind it was ALL released within like a week or two of Reloaded. I was working at Best Buy when the sequel came out so I remember. Animatrix if I remember correctly literally released a few days prior to Reloaded. Hell I think Enter The Matrix released the exact same day.
Reloaded and Revolutions was one of those cases where a movie was so huge that they decided to make two sequels back to back.
The first movie would sometimes dip into weird metaphysics but it kept to its theme enough to remain in your head. It’s a fairly straightforward monomyth hero’s journey plot with themes of destiny versus agency.
The sequels were crammed full of pointless “lots of shit happens on screen” action scenes and pseudophilosophic drivel.
I enjoy rewatching reloaded the most
I liked reloaded and revolutions even on first viewing, but I didn’t need them to feel the same way the first matrix movie felt in order to consider them good. Like, The Matrix stood out from pretty much every other movie I had seen before. You don’t get that a second time right away, especially from another movie of the same type about the same thing. They continued and closed the story very well, but none of them were an origin story, and origin stories are pretty much always more awesome than the other movies in the same series, no matter what order they are made in.
The Matrix was unfollowable, and they managed to follow it ok. They were always gonna be worse in comparison, but they aren’t actually bad.
I haven’t seen Resurrections, not for any particular reason, just keep forgetting anytime I do manage to remember it, before I remember it long enough to see it.
Can you clarify what you mean about origin stories?
Are you saying you like origin story movies? Especially ones that are released as a prequel to another movie?
I think origin movies generally suck, and I thought that was the common sentiment. Origin stories are a waste of screen time.
Origin stories tend to resonate with people, it’s basically “how did this person go from being a normal everyday nobody, to one of the most powerful people in the universe” and, if done right, you can empathize with their journey.
Some origin movies maybe suck at that, but that is them squandering an opportunity, you get alot of potential baked-in just from the concept alone.
The Matrix was maybe one of the most successful uses of an origin arc, but most origin movies have a similar free boost, whether the rest of the movie supports and earns that boost is up to them. But many still do.
Oh, I think we are talking about different things. I wouldn’t call the matrix an origin film. I would call something an origin film if it takes a pre-established character and tells a story of how they became that character. Batman Begins and Solo would qualify for that, whereas The Matrix is just a original story. They tend to be lazy story writing and spend time ticking off the boxes of things the audience recognises. Then half of them include a clunky way to come up the the characters name or title drop.
Ah, well there is an official classification, that is what I am going by. An origin story can still be called an origin story even if it’s the first story, if it follows the origin story format. If however the first story doesn’t follow the origin story format, then it isn’t an origin story even if it’s the first story.
An origin story is named that based on what happens in it, it doesn’t have to be a pre-quel to qualify.
I think you’re going to have to elaborate on what you mean by “official classification”
I can’t defend Resurrections though.
I can. It was a great flick. They were in it to milk one more payday out of it, but I still enjoyed where it went.
In contrast, I felt Rel and Rev were a bad Aliens2 to Matrix’s Alien. Full of action, none of the pacing. The wachowskis should’ve hit up the writer who wrote the stolen Matrix manuscript for a sequel instead, but they woulda had to pay her.
If I love it I objectively think its good. There are quite a few that people think were bad and most bombed hard and I loved them here goes one.
Hudson Hawk: Sandra Bernhard and Richard Grant were the most over the top bad guys. They were having a great time being that. The whole cast was just playing it like it was a blast to be there.
Hudson Hawk is one of my all time favorites, I quote it regularly and no one knows what I’m talking about.
Bunny, Ball Ball.
The Core
There is a movie called Club Paradise. Mid-80’s comedy starring Robin Williams and Jimmy Cliff, Twiggy, a bunch of 80’s comedy regulars, Peter O’Toole is in it. The plot of the film is local honest people vs corrupt government and business, but minute to minute it’s mostly a spring break shenanigans movie starring a bunch of adults? Like, Rick Moranis and Eugene Levy play a pair of potheads named Barry and Barry who repeatedly fail to score weed and chicks.
It has mostly negative reviews, but I’m fond of it. It DOES NOT work as a cinema film, I cannot imagine going to a theater, sitting reverently and quietly as it boomed down at me, but it works on TV as “let’s put a tape in while we’re getting ready for Family Saturday Afternoon Hobby Outing/waiting for Family Saturday Afternoon Hobby Venue to open.”
AeonFlux is pretty bad, I watch it every few years. Never saw the show.
The show is awesome, but it’s about 30% Twilight Zone, 20% Ghost in the Shell, and 50% incomprehensibly kinky fetish so esoteric that the censors didn’t know that it ought to have been censored for TV release.
The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension is a horrible movie and I absolutely love it! It is just so bad it is good.
Wrong, it is an amazing film. Nothing bad about it
I’m gonna tentatively say Cloud Atlas, but I don’t think it’s terrible. I am aware that not a lot of people like it, and I believe if the Wachowskis had followed the book, it would have been better received.
Cloud Atlas, the book, was structured in a way that was easier to follow, and made for a narrative flow through its seven timelines. Seven timelines in and of itself is quite a tall order, but the point was that kindness and art resonate through each timeline. In the book, the first six timelines are told halfway through. At around the halfway point, you jump to the next timeline. When you get to the seventh, it plays through in its entirety (I think — I feel like the epilogue, if it was in the book, would have gone at the end — I haven’t read the book yet, but it’s on my list of books to read. I’m just aware of how it’s formatted). Then the other six timelines finish, but this time in reverse order. So if the timelines are 1-7 and the halves are A and B, the book is basically 1A, 2A, 3A, 4A, 5A, 6A, 7A, 7B, 6B, 5B, 4B, 3B, 2B, and 1B. That makes sense. The film takes the book, cuts off the spine, throws all the pages up in the air, picks them up in random order, and then that’s the screenplay. It jumps all over the place without rhyme or reason. And it’s three fucking hours long!
The first time watching Cloud Atlas, I don’t think anyone liked it. But once you know what’s going on and you go back and watch it again, that second time, you know what all the stories are, and you’re not getting thrown around as much. If I had the budget to adapt the book, I’d probably do it as anime and have 14 episodes, and you can see above how I’d do it. So each half would get a single episode. You’d be kinda lost for the first half, but then going through the second half, everything just clicks. I’m not sure how I’d do it as a film, except to say I fucking wouldn’t. That the Wachowskis made it work for those of us with the patience to sit through a second and third viewing is kind of a miracle. At the very least I’d want to do a miniseries.
Cloud Atlas was not objectively terrible, but it was objectively flawed, and deeply at that. I still love it.
Also, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves. Widely hated for Kevin Costner not being able to pull off an English accent and director Kevin Reynolds letting him get away with it. And yet, I don’t think if Reynolds had recast Robin, it would have been as good. So if you look at the guys who were active in movies in 1991, you got some choices. Richard Gere probably could have pulled off the acting part. The machismo of Robin Hood? Of that Robin Hood? Maybe not. If you go with the classic Peter Pan-built Robin, and get rid of the war hero opening, maybe — but then how do you explain Morgan Freeman’s character? And you don’t write him out. There were plenty of actors who could have done the English accent and the action scenes, but there’s something about Kevin Costner, American accent and all, that really tied that movie together. And it’s kind of bad, Robin Hood with an American accent. I mean, what even is that? And yet, I love it.
I also enjoyed both of these movies. If you tell me that you also enjoyed Crash (2004) despite all the hate then I think we’ll have to become best friends.
I did like Crash, though I also recognise its shortcomings. I feel like it’s a fairy tale of sorts. X just happens to happen so Y can happen and leads to Z all because of a coincidence? Mainly referring to the invisible, bulletproof cloak, but also the thing with the cop and the Black lady. It’s so carefully put together though, I have to give it respect. But it’s in no way realistic. That’s never been a requirement for me. Big Fish, which is basically Forrest Gump plus fantasy, most of it is stuff that could/would never happen… and yet, it works. So, why is Crash any different? Because it doesn’t outwardly present as fantasy? All fiction is (somebody’s) fantasy. Well, I mean if you make it up, it comes from the same place as fantasy. It could be comic or it could be tragic, but if you made it up, the end or the message justifies all the leaps to get to that point. Basically it’s all fantasy. Because real life doesn’t have to have a point or a message. It just is.
Oh no, I hear Bryan Adams
Canadian government has apologized for Bryan Adams on several occasions!
It’s just a handful of songs that are probably good but A) not my style and B) ive heard so many thousands of times that they are the worst.
Like fuckin’ Hotel California, man.
It was the Summer of '69.
no
I remember watching the music video at the end of the VHS over and over as a kid.
Good song… but not his best. I prefer Summer of '69 and a couple others whose names escape me at the moment. Growing up in the 1980s he was always around. Everything I Do (I Do it for You) didn’t revive his career, it was kind of at the end of his popularity. So for all the radio play it got, it didn’t really help him as much as maybe it should have. He kept making music but it wasn’t popular, or as popular.
I can force myself past Costner’s accent. It’s Slater’s hair that yanks me out of immersion! I do love that movie though, I just wish they’d cast someone other than Christian Slater.
Yeah, I think back then Christian Slater was kind of his own brand, if the hair went, he went. And they wanted his name on the poster. I bet they would have loved to have his ass on display, rather than Costner’s, if they could have had it that way. He was the one pulling the young women into the theater. Costner… maybe older women. Even back then. Though it was more of an action role for him… I remember a lot of the girls and women swooning over him a few years later in The Bodyguard though.
Cloud Atlas and Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves are great movies!
