- Trump and his supporters are slamming Joe Biden for quitting the race and endorsing Kamala Harris.
- Some members of MAGA world are bemoaning the millions of dollars spent running against Joe Biden.
- Biden’s withdrawal also means Trump is now the oldest candidate in the presidential race.
Incidentally, there’s a bunch of people on Lemmy really mad that they can’t tell everyone not to vote for Biden anymore. They’ll tell us not to vote for whoever is going to be his replacement though.
Eh, their new dissent orders seem to be “Biden can’t appoint Harris! I didn’t vote for her!” which, of course, displays a total lack of knowledge about what primaries are and what the DNC is.
They didn’t want Biden to run, and now they mysteriously don’t want the person most of the party supports to run either.
Right? It’s almost as if they’ve never been approaching any of this in good faith.
You’re telling me someone would just go on the internet an lie?
It’s a massive social hub with influence on all the worlds information. What possible motivation could someone have try to influence people by faking accounts and make bad faith arguments?
Sorry, it just doesn’t add up. Now, you’ve interrupted me hitting myself in the head repeatedly with a hammer and this brain damageisnthgomr e
I’m seeing a lot of “wHat AbOuT A pRimArY” already from the usual bad actors.
The uptick in those types of accounts makes this site start to feel like 2016 reddit 😂. Lemmy has become large enough to justify investment of bots to brigade and astroturf; we’ve made it!
Someone should start a Lemmy.ru instance with communities like /c/kremlin or maybe /c/remlin
I’ve seen iterations of “the Democrats stabbed Biden in the back!” too many times on here over the past 24 hours for it to be a coincidence
displays a total lack of knowledge
Well we are talking about right wingers here, kinda par for the course. :P
Get ready to repeat this: “The Biden of today is not the Biden who was voted for in the primaries.” Even Biden himself acknowledged that by stepping aside as candidate!
Ozma in pieces right now…
You’d think so, but they already have moved on to “don’t vote for Harris” posts.
Why am I not surprised…
Already happening. They’re testing the waters to see what’s going to stick.
I just ran into them trying to promote Jill stein in another thread lol
This Jill Stein?
Hmm…
RFK has been abandoned.
He wormed his own way out.
It’s pretty hard to argue in favor of the brain worms guy.
To be fair, though, even with literal brain damage, he’s still not the worst candidate on the ballot.
A steaming pile of Biden’s dogs shit would be a better candidate than Dementia Don, the racist rapist with 34 felonies that can’t complete a coherent sentence.
And her past as a prosecutor, and the fact that she lost the primary 4 years ago, and her laugh. In addition to yours, that’s all I’ve seen so far. They ran “Heels up Harris” into the ground several years ago, but I do think it will make a return at some point. It was a shit insult but so are the others they’re trying to use.
Really all they have is a terrible legal gambit to try to keep her off ballots. That one is laughably bad. No deadlines have passed. The idiot at the front of the House said something stupid. I would hammer that until election day. “The Republicans did their best to keep us off the ballot because they hate freedom and democracy. They don’t want you to have a choice. And Trump endorsed Harris. Here’s the check.”
She also said something hard to understand about coconuts. Don’t forget that one. That means something or other.
Now they’re panicking and can’t decide if she’s unlikable or if she’s the “whacky aunt” entertaining everyone at the barbecue.
I went to the other place to check TFGs meltdown tweets or truths or turds or whatever they call them and I was not disappointed. He is asking for his money back because the attack ads they’ve purchased were against Joe.
Oh yeah I’ve been called a fascist already because I said I’d vote for Harris and that while she isn’t the best candidate she will be leagues better than Biden imo.
While I never told anyone not to vote for Biden, I definitely openly bitched about him not being capable of speaking and the absolute joke it is. I’m not a fan of Harris, but my God, a sentient adult is amazing.
Sorta the same here. I didn’t openly say anything and I’m voting blue but when he called Zelensky putin and Kamala trump I internally slumped my shoulders.
Everything they already pinned on Joe (like mainly Israel) they can pin on her because she was part of the same administration. Plus they will now also point at things from her past, like history as a criminal prosecutor, and blame her for that as well. Since that won’t align with progressive criminal reform agenda. And they might call her a race traitor as well, just for good measure. Should be interesting to see what the tankies and communists come up with.
Your argument is bizarre. Please explain why someone wouldn’t use “things from her past” to inform their vote. You use the word “blame” as though she is a victim of her own decisions.
I don’t know a single communist who would call someone a race traitor. That’s nuts and your anger is very misdirected.
Things from the past are worth knowing for sure but what’s important are her goals now, her administration, and her platform overall.
I’m not angry about anything. And I’m not sure where you see anger in my post (and therefore how it could be directed at anyone.) I’m making an observation based on what I see here on Lemmy. I even state it will be interesting to see what some lemmies will come up with. No anger here pal. Just observations.
there’s a bunch of people on Lemmy really mad that they can’t tell everyone not to vote for Biden anymore.
is there any evidence for this claim at all?
GOP: “Your candidate is unfit for office.”
Dems: “Okay, we got a new candidate.”
GOP: shocked pikachu
No no not like that! We’re going to sue!
They’re going to, probably in every single red state.
They’re going to throw so much shit at the wall due to election ballot timing that unfortunately I think something will stick… it more than likely wont be legitimate, but we have way too many corrupt judges out there :(
If there is any way Mississippi and Arkansas can keep a black woman Democrat off the ballot, they will find it.
Please get me out of this state
Don’t you have legs?
You mean Mississippi and Arkansas might go red? I guess our entire electoral strategy’s doomed, then!
Except other states could use that as a case to federally disqualify a candidate. “Well they weren’t on the ballot in all the states, can this be said to be a representative vote?”
Lincoln wasnt on the ballots for the Southe- motherfuckers better not pull that shit again!
Ironically, this is where the SC’s ruling to keep Trump on the ballot can be helpful. Because as long as the proper paperwork is filed in time, the committee can nominate whoever it wants, and the state doesn’t have the power to disqualify someone.
It’s a good thing we had no chance of winning those states then lol.
If they did, it might actually drive up voter enthusiasm around the country. So I could see it backfiring spectacularly.
Ehh not like deep red states would ever swing towards the Dems anyways. So fuck em
I don’t think it’s a given that something will stick in a way that actually throws a wrench in the election. It would have to be in a swing state, the judge would have to be willing to become infamous around the world, and willing to ignore the precedent that generally political parties can choose candidates how they want and of course a nominee can decline the nomination.
Oh fuck, Aileen Cannon exists…
They aren’t going to sue. They are going to start shooting. They’ve outright stated that. It’s crystal clear: they’ve said that the revolution would be “bloodless” only if the left “allowed” it to be. I really wanted to live long enough to build a family,.
You missed what Johnson said this morning. He says it’s “unlawful” in some states. (Which is not true in the slightest and they know it)
How much you want to bet that this only will be “unlawful” in red governmental shithole states
He’s basically giving a dog whistle to maggot judges to hold the line for the fascist party’s interest if these “challenges” come to them.
Edit: fixed for feels being hurt / jimmies rustled
Some of us live in those red shitholes. Send help. Please.
The only nice thing about those red shitholes is that it’s stupidly easy to get a gun. Get one. Join your local chapter of the SRA. Train at the local range at least twice a month so that you are proficient with it. Learn all the local stand your ground laws. Memorize them. When they start shooting, aim center mass.
While a pistol is far more portable, it requires far more training, as the lower mass of the firearm results in a larger than expected kick. Shotguns are really the weapon of choice for urban defense.
I personally have a couple of extremely nice sniper crossbows, that are basically silent. Seriously, the bolt impacting my target makes more noise than the bow. A couple of T-33s, an AA-12, and a 30-06. Lots of ammo too.
Learning how to reload your ammo is also invaluable, should they start shooting. Have a “riot shield,” basically the largest piece of steel you can easily carry that is more than 2" thick. Body armor is also a useful investment.
I find it turns my stomach at the thought of training at a gun range with people who would rather shoot me in the head than tell me the time of day. That’s the kind of gun fetishists who live in the area I’m at.
Not that I’m advocating for training with intent cause there’s far too much gun violence as it is, but if you are in a gun range and training to use a gun, the wack jobs are all going to assume you are one of them. They really believe that liberals are scared of guns and wouldn’t dare to own one. Much less train to use one.
I’m all about most of what you said, but nobody anywhere is carrying a steel shield 2" thick.
Carry isn’t the right word here. I have a 6’ x 2’ x 2" piece of steel that I mounted on a stand and wheels. It’s technically mobile in that I can move the thing with effort. It is bulletproof though. I have tested it against AP rounds.
I don’t take it with me on protests, it sits in my house in one of the most defensable positions in the house.
Yeah the thing weighs about half a ton.
Speaking from experience, SRA in central FL/ Orlando is useless. Paid $35 to be put into the Jacksonville SRA and got a link to an inactive discord channel.
I’m all ears for a viable alternative until I get out to Colorado.
A 1 square foot, 2 inch steel plate is 81lbs. Ain’t nobody carrying armor like that.
Carry isn’t the right word here. I have one that is 12 sq feet, it is “mobile” in that it has wheels and a stand. I can barely move the thing around, but it is certainly bulletproof. I e tested it against AP rounds. Yes the thing weighs about half a ton.
How is it unlawful? The candidate hasn’t even been formally selected yet.
Exactly. It’s not. And they know it. The fact they’re trying to run to their judges means they are scared.
It’s not. They’re consistently full of shit.
Can we try not to talk like Trump? No state as a whole is a shit hole full of shit hole people, those kinds of statements reek of elitism and it’s not a good look.
I live in Oklahoma. It is a shithole. I live in a shithole state.
They’re just trying to rile up their base that this is “cheating” so that they come out to vote in outrage
They’re ginning up arguments about “cheating” in case they lose. Trump has never admitted to losing an election, always claiming the winner cheated. And as we saw on Jan 6, it really riles up the dirtbags that form Trump’s unique voter constituency.
Maybe they should have spent time and money promoting their candidate instead of attacking the other
This is really what it boils down to. But with Trump there is nothing to promote. The only way they can win is by ruining the reputation of their opponent to try to make them look worse.
What about hunters laptop? That’s still going to be a huge deal right? Right??
Didn’t you know Kamala let her tamagotchi die 30 years ago? Do you know where that tamagotchi has been buried? You might not know about this, but everyone is talking about this. But they don’t because they are too scared to talk about it. A lot of good people. They talk about it. And the world is laughing at us. The good people talking about this are too scared to talk because the world is laughing.
The best people tell me Hillary Clinton had a tamagotchi just like it. So sad. So sad.
Rumour has it she used it for e-mail.
Have they looked for it on that underground pizza place? All them libruls have secret meetings in there, for realsies!
But it doesn’t matter if he had nothing to promote. He’s not above lying. This was just a bad decision on their part. Even if biden hadn’t dropped out, there’s no guarantee that a man that age will be here in four months.
He’s not above lying.
Lying is one of the things he has a lot of practice doing.
He’s not very good at it, though, he contradicts his lies with other lies on a regular basis.
In the same sentence even.
I said the exact same thing this morning to a coworker. They have no policies, just hate.
Project 2025 tends to disagree
True. Their policies are so bad they have to disavow them…
Except to the right audience they are extremely proud of them. Yes overall their policies are unpopular but they aren’t without support
Sure - but they don’t need to win those folks votes
What’s the point here? I’m trying to point out the very real danger they represent. Are you really going to downplay that danger? This is how we lost roe v wade
Whoa…I agree with you. And I’m not sure why what I said upset you. I am just speaking in the context of the discussion of the post which is campaign strategy.
We need to shout about Project 2025 from the rooftops because it’s so toxic the Trump campaign wants it to stay hidden.
It’s that they don’t need to be won over. They are going to vote for Trump regardless.
That seems like a hatred manifesto more than policy.
Call it what you want. The document is very clearly full of harmful policy goals.
Yeah, it’s not a difficult concept
I was thinking this when everyone was saying it’s too late to change candidates. While that might have been true if a campaign consisted of promoting people’s positives, that’s not what it is. It’s all about finding the dirt on the other and switching candidates late just means there has been less shit talked.
That and attacking the ideas, not the person.
Policies don’t sell in the current political climate. It has been all about Trump vs not Trump since 2016.
Oh, I understand, but if was still their strategy choice.
Trump added that he thought the GOP should be “reimbursed for fraud.”
Trump raises an excellent point: his campaign was forced to waste money against Biden for as long as it did only for the Democrats to pull the rug out from under him by pulling Joe out of the race. This, if anything, is a form of cheating.
AH HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Unironically “I object on the grounds that it’s devastating to my case”
Ahh, the famous cheat of checks notes changing your mind weeks before announcing a decision.
Biden was never running against Trump in the 2024 election. The Democrats still have not announced a candidate. If the Republicans wanted to campaign against the presumptive nominee before an official decision was made, that’s on them.
I can’t believe all those stupid anti-biden truck decals etc will be rendered pointless in a matter of months. I better start making anti-Kamala decals if i want to properly capitalize on these next 4 years 🤑
Edit: cry into your fuckin ear-squares ya bunch of sad sacks
Their favorite cheap Chinese manufacturers are already on it, ready to take more of their money.
You can still cash in. There always needs to be the middle man in that scenario, buy em for $3 each. Sell em for $20 at flea markets and fairs.
I’m not interested in generating fascist, environment-polluting junk though.
Yeah, but it’ll take a few weeks for those to get here on the slow boat from China.
Those people aren’t going to let go of their anti-Biden identity that easily, we will probably still see those decals for years.
In fairness… a lefty could make bank on anti Kamala stickers (that secretly hide they are too her but only people who finished school would notice)
Biden is now a man with nothing to lose and a supreme court that said presidents can do any damn thing they please
Just like we drew it up.
Unfortunately he won’t do anything with that at all.
But why leave a quiet legacy when you can spend 6 months earning a whole page in a high school history book?
He’s already earned a page in the history books, might as well make it a whole chapter.
His administration is still tied to Kamala , he can’t piss off people
I would love him to do such extreme things they have no choice but to retract the rulings and put in further protections.
Executive order to club the kneecaps of the supreme judges. Every Monday morning.
Like fire the few unqualified corrupt shitheads that were appointed by a felon rapist traitor? Judges appointed by traitors that follow Putin’s will should no longer be judges. It’s a matter of national security.
They don’t have to retract the ruling, they specifically said the supreme court can still revoke what the president does. So only trump is allowed whatever he wants.
Of course they are mad. The Republican strategy up until this point has been to attack the incumbent, but now the incumbent is no longer running for re-election. Trump literally doesn’t know how to deal with this situation. His whole shtick is to attack the person currently in charge, but that doesn’t do shit for him now.
A big part of why he lost in 2020, imo, is that he didn’t have anybody to blame for all the bad shit happening in the country at the time. He himself was in charge and could only say “things will get worse under Biden”, but people were sick of Covid fucking up our lives and the endless scandals that hit the news daily.
He’s gonna tie every biden policy to Hillary Clinton and attack her based on that.
Then hopefully someone will remind him that he’s running against Kamala Harris and not Clinton.
More likely they will just make up a connection with Hillary and Kamala. Like they are in the same coven and drink adrenochrome together.
Why did my keyboard know autocorrect the spelling of that word?
what the hell… I’ve never heard of this before
Wild huh? Hunter Thompson wrote about it once, and then it was in the movie version of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. Got warped around to what it is now.
There is a large chunk of the US population that believes this shit or things adjacent to it. 30% or so, I think. I’ve lost many people to it.
Check out Qanon Qausilties on Reddit. It’s a cult, that’s a mental illness, that’s a political movement. Useful for the fascists. Very dangerous. Very sad.
It’s a real substance the body makes, but it can also be synthesized. As such, people have taken it to try it out. Iirc it isn’t even a fun high, so they started making up that children make “better” versions or something.
It’s just blood libel with the label scrapped off. Until you dig deeper into right wing conspiracies, then it’s just regular blood libel.
This mad me laugh out loud uncontrollably. Well done!
the Republican Party had "spent tens of millions of dollars running against Joe Biden
Damn, if only they had spent that tens of millions of dollars campaigning for somebody, then this wouldn’t have even mattered.
Or even attack the policies. The problem for the Trump Party is that they are a cult of personality and don’t understand what policy really means.
they’re gonna have to re-edit some of their attack ads ready to go and just add “and SHE was there, vice presidenting all of it” at the end.
Maybe they will start to realize the persistent election cycle is not a good thing. I would love to see a ban on all election campaigning until 90 days before said election but that wouldn’t get past a 1st amendment challenge.
Lets start by putting a cap on how much money can be spent on campaigns and keep it at a very minimal level.
Start by eliminating superPACs.
Sounds good. We’ll just need to re-do Citizens United with fewer than 5 fully regressive appointees purchased by billionaires.
Cap it at like $30. You can run an ad in the student newspaper of your choice.
That’ll never work, big donors will just hide it or do the advertising themselves unrelated of course
This is starting to look like an effective strategy for the Democrats to drain Republican funds: don’t announce your actual candidate until August.
The US election cycle is too long anyway. I’m very for this idea.
Spot on. For once (not really, but this doesn’t happen as often as it needs to) the Democrats are outsmarting their opponents. Let’s make this the norm. All of us working together towards a common sense future.
The problem with a 2 party system is that it is a lot easier to make the opposition look bad rather than make your candidate look good.
So all these MAGAs lost a lot of money since their smear campaign of Biden is now worth nothing and they will have to start over.
The smear campaign for Harris is already ramping up into full fashion.
Anything and everything is being thrown at the wall to see if it sticks. It’s absolutely disgusting behavior.
Oh no, all of their bots will have to be reprogrammed.
I’m having a blast trolling Trump supporters on Instagram. They’re short fusing right now.
Post screenshots as Lemmy content!
Yeah, post them here: insanepeoplefacebook@lemmy.world
I need this in my life please
It’s why they’re all so quiet now.
Bots and trolls in shambles right now
You guys realize that Biden waited until after the RNC to announce this right? He’s making this as hard as possible for them to pivot. You had hundreds of people in the same city, building strategies for their campaign. He had made sure that Kamala would have the delegates secured to ensure there would be no in-fighting for the next candidate. They did little to stop the media in going down the rabbit hole of the all-consuming news that he should drop out. They used it for their advantage to create a positive whirl wind around Kamala. Truly brilliant.
At the time it was frustrating, but in hindsight this was all clearly orchestrated. A brilliant move by the Democrats and an incredible act of patriotism by President Biden. His legacy is secured in perpetuity.
Only great people give up power willingly. Huge props to Biden. I didn’t want him to quit because I always knew he was a good president and a good man.
Hopefully the next candidate will be able to take down Trump.
Some 5D chess
Nice thought exercise but in reality an old man got COVID and was finally convinced that he was a losing gambit.
Occam’s razor
That’s not what happened. He had a run of bad luck over a couple of weeks, including getting covid, and then some major donors said they would withdraw support.
I mean he still gets the credit for doing the right thing. He could’ve hung in there until the bitter end… but it’s always about the money.
I like this idea.
It’s certainly true that if Biden was planning to withdraw then after the republican convention and before the dems was certainly the correct time to do it.
I believe it was a mistake to pull out this late in the game and think its probably giving Trump the win but seeing how mad republicans get is almost worth it.
I don’t really understand how it’s too late?
4 months feels like a perfect amount of time to woo the populace - enough time to see and hear her without getting weary of her.
What advantages would they have had by switching Kamala in a month or two ago ?
I believe it was a mistake to pull out this late in the game and think its probably giving Trump the win
Kamala polls better than Biden in match-ups against trump among every age group except boomers whose kids are trying to get them to surrender their car-keys.
That said, I expect it’s all rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. Turn out among dem voters will probably be lower than in 2020 because that’s what happens when instead of doing what your voters want, you end covid protections, facilitate a genocide, and beat them up for protesting that genocide.
So they are basically admitting that their whole campaign argument was “Biden is bad Trump is not Biden” and now that he is gone, the argument is invalid. After all if it was a campaign mostly about Trump’s positive qualities (in their perspective) then it should not have really mattered who the opposition is.
The problem with Trump being a talentless orange idiot is that the only quality he had was being younger than Biden.
Which was like twins that argue over who’s older.
Maybe the Republicans should do the same thing then and have Trump stop running.
They only wish, that’s why they are so angry.
In the blink of an eye, their surplus of hateful anti-Biden merchandise becomes even more useless. This will surely make them realize how idiotic their cult is /s.
