• makyo@lemmy.world
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    I always say if you want to seem like a genius in the kitchen just sauté some onions

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      I saw somewhere there exists a saying along the lines of ‘start sauteing onion, add some garlic, then you figure out what you are going to cook.’ When my wife and I have time to actually cook, this is basically what we do. everything is better with garlic and onions, from German to Korean. The rest is just details.

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            Absolutely universal because garlic and onion are amazing for any tongue.

            And people who dislike garlic or onions are always super sus, because no the fuck you don’t. You just think you don’t like it.

            I knew someone who said she was “allergic to onions if she could see them”… that is not how allergies work dumbfuck, you are just a super basic bitch with no taste.

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                Hi, it’s me 😜. Seriously, I have a minor tomato allergy where I’ll get a bit of a rash if I have tomatoes 2-3 days in a row. It’s annoying. I also don’t like the taste or texture of tomatoes.

                However the taste and texture of so many things with tomatoes are so good, that I’m fine if I develop a rash. Adding onions, cilantro, and jalapeños to chunks of tomato turns it into something entirely different. Cooking it down with oregano, thyme, etc is also completely different in taste and texture.I’ll avoid the tomatoes themselves and I’ll still probably try to avoid the rash by not eating tomato meals too many days in a row though

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                That’s actually a thing. Raw tomatoes vs cooked. I think it’s called oral allergy syndrome.

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                That guy was also a super basic bitch with no taste ;)

                I mean don’t get me wrong, I don’t really like tomatoes either. But I’m not a giant tool about it, and just say “I’m not really a fan of fresh tomatoes, but I’ll try it”

                What a weiner. People are so weird.

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                So there’s a salt in a lot of canned diced tomatoes (not all) that’s used as a preservative that some people can be sensitive to. It helps keep the tomatoes firm while canned. (I worked briefly in a tomato cannery). IIRC it’s one of the sodium citrates, but I can’t remember which right now.

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                  Really? I never knew that. I wonder if that’s what I’m actually allergic to

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      I usually start my meals by sauteing onions and without fail whoever is in the house will say “Ooo, that smells good what is it?”

      Literally just onions

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          Garlic makes your meal taste thicc. Trying to force myself into a lite and airy phase. Not sure why… think I’m just wanting to lose weight, not as if that’s how foods work though. Garlic isn’t fattening haha

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            Garlic makes your meal taste thicc. Trying to force myself into a lite and airy phase.

            Try making toum.

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        Saute carrots, onions, and celery. Everyone will think you’re making something incredible. And, fortunately, you’ll have the base to follow through, if you so desire.

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        Haha, I can cook but I don’t really know what I am doing. It usually starts with some oil and garlic or onions in a pan, then I figure out what to actually cook. But if someone walks in at just that step they think you’re some culinary genious.

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          Haha, I can cook but I don’t really know what I am doing.

          Bruh, don’t sell yourself short. If you know how to just throw shit into a pan and have it come out both edible and tasty (or even only the first one), you have a decent idea of what you’re doing.

          Being able to do that is a skill that takes work, and is something my wife has worked hard to develop. He k, just knowing what spices go well together or with what meats is a skill in and of itself.

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        There’s a reason why cooked onions are common across almost every international cuisine on earth.

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      Best way to stop a small argument? Saute onions in olive oil then add some garlic. Guarantee a head will poke around a door frame and all arguments melt away.

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      So how do you do it?

      I’m asking because I learned not a long time ago to somewhat heavily salt the onions beforehand (in olive oil ofc) and it’s great. Burst for some minute or three, keep hot while stirring til done (hard, melted, …).

      I don’t put garlic in it though, I’d put that in the rest of the food if I do.

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        I made a big batch yesterday (4 large onions).

        Butter and olive oil. Add onions. I add water at the beginning so I don’t have to pay as much attention as the beginning. Once the onions are soft, turn it low and take your time. Only stir occasionally.

        I used the instant pot yesterday and it was super easy.

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                Also high-sugar varieties like Vidalia and Candy onions. Don’t knock us for our onions - at least our onion farmers aren’t dropping bombs on brown people.

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                  Yeah it wasn’t meant to be a knock, just an observation about onion size really. I haven’t tried them enough times to judge if I think they’re good or bad. But they’re definitely big!

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                The larger the onion, the more water is in it and the less it tastes, from my experience.

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                  I never realized Americans had particularly big onions, but a lot of them are bigger than my fist and definitely full of flavor. Now something like a shallot is small and delicious but it’s a different flavor.

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                  Maybe: it does seem like the larger onions tend to be the sweeter varieties. That’s great though, when one slice covers your entire burger, and you get the satisfying crunch of a nice thick slice of onion without all the bitterness.

                  That being said, Ive tried caramelizing red onions instead off the more standard yellow, and I’m not sure the final result is any different

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          What do you do you with a big batch? Saving some for later or just gorge on sautéed unions?

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            I needed some for käsespätzle, and it’s one of those things where if you make it a little little might just as well make a lot. It will get used. Caramelized onions go well with just about everything.

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            • on top of meat, like a steak or a burger
            • incorporated into mashed potatoes
            • I’ve been seeing various recipes for “French onion soup style” g occhi
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        Really I just lightly spray some canola oil in the pan and add sliced onions and heat.

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    Remember, it takes at least 45 minutes to caramelize an onion. If you’re doing it for less than 45 minutes, then you’re just cooking it.

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      45 minus to fully caramelize.

      If you don’t want them that dark you don’t have to cook them that long.

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        Sure, you can use non-caramelized onions. You just won’t get that sweetness.

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              Saves times and gives the sweet taste. If someone doesn’t want to do it for 45 minutes then yeah

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                  Sour and bitter can be good though. I love fresh onion as is. I ghetto caramelize it a bit to make it more palatable to my girlfriend though. For that you don’t need to do a proper caramelization, getting the process going and adding a bit of sugar is enough.

                  I love to add vinegar too though. Vinegar, a bit of sugar, a bit of salt, some time on the pan, delish.

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      I know you’re joking, but the only way I can see it taking that long is if you put whole onions into an oven set to 180° to 200° F.

      In a frying pan, one can easily caramelize an entire large frying pan of onions in about 30 minutes, or even faster if you decide to use physics to your advantage, and add a small amount of water to your pan and caramelize your pan of onions within 14 minutes. This is an advanced technique that requires some experience to try to use. Much like making a Dark Roux in 15 minutes.

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        I’m absolutely not joking. If you’re cooking it for less than 45 minutes, you’re not caramelizing the onions. Frequent stirring, adding water, whatever, you can get the color and texture of caramelization, but not the flavor.

        I spent a couple of years making slightly disappointing meals because I was focused on the color and texture of my onions instead of the flavor. When I finally took the time to fully caramelize them again, I remembered what I had been missing.

        Try it and taste the difference if you don’t believe me.

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      I know it’s not exactly the same as a low temp for a while. But you can get pretty good results with a high temp, just need to deglaze more frequently, usually with water until they’re almost done. Then wine and/or balsamic is good.

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    I had someone arrive at a BBQ, saw me frying some onions, and ask “Are you going to caramelise those onions?”

    Yes mate. The onions I’m frying for a few minutes while the burgers cook, gonna be nice and caramelised in seconds, just you watch.

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      Every time I do a Bunnings BBQ for the community centre, it’s women run, we get the onions on ASAP because they need time to cook, and we’ll have people buying a plain onion sandwich in addition to a snag, because caramelised onions are so good!

      Every time I volunteer to help my partners football club run a sausage sizzle, I’m saying “put the onions on, they take longer” and I’m told by the guys “I’m a man, I know how to BBQ, go away little girl, go hold the sign and be pretty”

      Then everyone buying a snag is complaining about crunchy raw onions, and the guys are saying “why did we buy so many onions?” (because you were supposed to cook them down so they shrink!)

      These same men will unironically say “women belong in the kitchen” then won’t take cooking advice from a woman.

      (also, the footy guys always giving me flak for deglazing the BBQ plate with water to help the onions cook down faster. They’ll just keep adding oil, once saw a Rotary Club use 1L of canola oil to half cook 5kg of onions, when we’ve never needed more than 200ml to fully cook onions, because onions need water to cook down!)

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        Ngl, you just taught me some thing, I thought I was cooking them down quick, frying them in my bacon fat, before adding eggs to them, I’ll have to try adding some water, maybe that will make them come out better.

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      I have a 3 year old nephew and if you gave him a caramel onion like that I think he’d either eat it happily or ask for a plain onion instead. That kid loves himself some onions.

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      The only thing I get from that story is that adults and peer pressure sucks. Eat that candied onion and enjoy it as much as you want, fuck those those stupid “grown-ups”.

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    30 minutes

    https://youtu.be/Ovqhzil3wJw?feature=shared

    We start our caramelized onions in a covered nonstick skillet over high heat with ¾ of cup water. The water and steam help the onions quickly soften. Then we remove the lid, lower the heat to medium-high, and press the softened onions into the bottom and sides of the skillet to allow for maximum contact with the hot pan. Instead of finishing with sugar or honey as many recipes call for, we add baking soda, which speeds up the reaction that converts flavorless inulin (a polysaccharide present in onions) to fructose.

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      My face smells like onions for 3 days straight after cooking something with onions for more than 20 minutes. It should be much more terrible to have just onions in the pan

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        Only way I’ve done em. I am basically incapable of standing in front of the same pot for 45 mins. Don’t get me wrong, I love cooking, but some of the really tedious styles, especially if also monotonous, I can’t do. I’d get distracted by something eventually.

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        Slow cooker, on the back porch, if making a batch of them. Otherwise just low & slow in the skillet. A comment farther up says ‘many recipes call for sugar’ but I have never seen that. The onions that make your eyes water when you cut them, and a little salt & olive oil.

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          Adding sugar is “caramelize your onions in only 15 minutes with this one genius hack!”… the more clickbait headlines should help indicate which streamers are not worth watching/reading

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      Trained chefs who know how to get rich colour from onion soup for one. As well as anyone who knows how to make good sauteed onions.

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    Hey guys. I am no cook and I don’t speak English natively. What the heck is caramelising onions?

    I thought caramelising is when the sugar liquifies and you get caramel. So caramelising onions would be to cover them in lots of sugar and cooking them until they are covered in caramel.

    But it sounds like you are just deep roasting them.

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      It’s just a process of slowly cooking them on a low heat, they’ll naturally go quite sweet after a while without having to add sugar.

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      It’s just slowly cooking chopped onions in a pan until they are a deep brown and very soft and sweet. If you’ve ever had french onion soup, that’s basically just caramelized onions in broth.

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      Caramelization is the process of sugars browning due to high heat. The actual reactions that are happening is a combination of sugars and their chains breaking down into smaller compounds and those smaller compounds recombining into other compounds, all these new compounds gives caramelized foods their distinctive colour and taste.

      When making caramel the sugar liquification happens often in high enough temperatures for caramelization to occur. The process of sauteeing/high temperature cooking onions long enough involves the same exact reactions. In onions the bit longer chain sugars that dont taste sweet are broken down into simple sugars thus producing the sweet taste of caramelized onions and the further reactions produce the caramel colour and taste.

      Tldr: caramelization is a group of chemical reactions and ‘caramel’ is basically a taste and colour that results from it

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        Thanks. So I thought correctly, but didn’t think of the longer chain sugar in onions, since they usually don’t taste sweet.

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          Many things can taste sweet if you caramelize them. Carrots will caramelize in butter if you sautee them on low heat in a cast iron and you can make them taste candied with no added sugar

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            Caramelized carrots are bomb. Add as a topping on a sweet potato casserole if you wanna level up your game.

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          Eating onion raw is the only way to mask its sweetness. Or maybe boiling the crap out of it until it tastes like nothing at all. Otherwise, onion is very sweet.

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          The Maillard reaction is different from caramelization

          Caramelization may sometimes cause browning in the same foods in which the Maillard reaction occurs, but the two processes are distinct. They are both promoted by heating, but the Maillard reaction involves amino acids, whereas caramelization is the pyrolysis of certain sugars.

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    You can caramelize onions in five minutes, but the onions won’t be very satisfied afterwards

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    Unless your cooking Italian. I had an Italian tell me once, it’s either garlic or onions but not both together

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      It’s weird, I watch a lot of Youtube videos about street food vendors in India and sometimes they brag about not using garlic or onions in their offerings. I don’t get how that could possibly be a selling point.

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        Indian food without garlic and onions is trying to be religiously inclusive. Jainism is a popular religion in India, which teaches nonviolence. Included in that belief is the idea that nothing should be harmed, even plants. As such, they seek to avoid eating any vegetables that are harvested by killing the plant. Onions and garlic both require that their plants be killed, so Jains try to avoid those. Instead, their food often contains hing, a smelly spice that hasn’t really caught on in the west. I haven’t tried it, but hose that have say that once cooked, hing somewhat resembles the taste of onions and garlic.

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          Interesting. So chives and Society Garlic would be okay for them then?

          Also, I’m curious what their take would be on digging up a garlic bulb and taking most of the pieces for cooking, but then planting the rest back out as individual plants.